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Old 04-03-2005, 11:56 PM
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Lee Trevino's Power Fade
Homer Kelly used Lee Trevino’s swing for making various points. Some members may find it interesting to compare how Lee was thinking at the time. The following article appeared in Golf Magazine, December 1979 under the heading

YOU CAN LEARN TO HIT MY FADE
Here is a simple method that will help you develop an accurate left-to-right shot
By LEE TREVINO

“There are probably as many different ways to draw and fade the ball, as there are tacos in Mexico I'm sure you've heard about many of them. Strong and weak grips. Opened and closed clubfaces. Inside and outside takeaways. Early and late releases. Light and tight grip pressures. But most of these methods are unreliable, particularly when you try to mix them up in your golf game.

My theory is that you should have one favorite shot, either a fade or a draw, and use it almost all the time. I favor the fade. But not an ordinary fade, with an open clubface or weak grip or outside to inside swing. Those types are too fickle. One mistake in timing, one miscalculation and the fade you expected can become a blue dart into the left trees. No, I have my own technique, unlike anything you've heard of before. It has worked for me, and it can work for you. Even if you are a slicer, my technique will help you control your slice, and as a bonus, help you hit a draw, as well.

I almost always "push" the ball. That's the easy way to think of my fade, as a push/fade to the target. Very little can go wrong: Your wrists can't roll over and surprise you with a snap hook. You don't have to worry about releasing early or late, because, in effect, you don't release at all. And. you don't need to fret about a "double cross" aiming left and hitting farther left by mistake. With my method, the ball drifts to the right every time.

To begin, make sure your shoulders, hips and feet line up to the left of your intended target with the shoulders slightly less open than the hips and feet. Aim the clubface at the target, open to your body alignment.
Play the ball about one to two inches inside your left heel and start the club back along the target line. This will put the club on an inside path in relation to your body.

On the forward swing, shift your hips laterally toward the target and swing the club down on the target line, holding your release and keeping the clubhead on the target line well after impact. You should have the feeling of swinging very much inside-to-outside and in fact, you are.

"Inside out?" you might ask. "Doesn't that cause a draw?" Yes, it does, but only when your swing is inside out in relation to your target line. This swing is inside out in relation to the body alignment, but straight back to straight through in relation to the target line (see illustration). You won't draw the ball with this swing. If anything, you will contact the ball after the club has swung down and back to, the inside on the forward swing, thus putting a slight left to right spin on the ball .

So you have two big pluses here: First, you have an inside to outside attack in relation to your body. This is much more powerful than the outside-to inside swings that many amateurs use to fade the ball. Second, you have the club moving down the target line, producing either a straight ball or slight fade. You can't beat that combination.

Here's a trick that might help you understand this a little better. After you set up, imagine that there are three golf balls in front of the one you're about to hit (see illustration). For the fade, you want to hit through all four balls. This will force your right shoulder down rather than around on the downswing, with your arms extending toward the target on the follow through. Keep in mind that the right shoulder doesn't dip. That would cause fat shots. Instead, the shoulder simply swivels underneath the chin. As a result, you will hold your release, keep the club moving down the target line, and push the ball to the hole, with very little sidespin.

I have, however, encountered one "problem" among people who have tried this method. They say to me, "Lee, when I swing your way, I hit the ball way to the right. I just tell them, "Aim farther left.” Don't open your stance more; just shift your entire orientation to the left. In other words, rather than aim the clubface down the fairway or at the pin, aim it at an intermediate target more to the left and shift your body alignment farther to the left as well. There's no rule that says you have to aim down the middle. Line up for the trees on the left and push it down the fairway. It's easy, when you know for sure that you can hit the push/fade.

The beauty of the balls in a line image is that you can use it to draw the ball, too. For the right to left shot, line up your body parallel to the target line and aim your clubface at an intermediate target to the right, to allow for the draw. Then, simply think of picking off the first ball in line, the real ball, without touching the three imaginary ones. This brings the right shoulder and club up quickly in the follow through, and whenever the club and shoulder move up, they go counterclockwise as well, which closes the clubface. Result: a draw.

Try my method. You'll see how easy it is to fade and draw the ball. You'll always know where the ball is going. And in golf, there's no substitute for accuracy. I can vouch for that.

A key to hitting consistent, solid fades is to keep the right shoulder moving down under the chin through impact.”


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Old 04-04-2005, 08:12 AM
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Nice!
Great article! It sounds like he's describing hitting with angled hinging to me....
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Old 04-04-2005, 09:59 AM
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A lot easier to get the right forearm tracing down the line from an open stance - but you'll need some good pivot work to play this way IMO

Thanks for the article, great stuff!
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Re: Nice!
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Great article! It sounds like he's describing hitting with angled hinging to me....
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I think it is interesting that Lee Trevino, as well as many(most) tour players that play a fade, uses a Strong Grip 10-2-D or 10-2-F. TGM does imply that the Strong grip is "compatible" with fades.

Lietzke, Azinger, Duval(old swing)... use a Strong grip.

Zach Johnson, interestingly, uses a very strong grip, and draws everything.
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Old 04-04-2005, 11:20 AM
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LOL...Trevino may be one of the best ball strikers of all time but he wasn't to smart when it came to instruction.

Tell a bunch of high handicaps who already have problems slicing the ball to "push fade" it is crazy haha
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Originally Posted by jim_0068
LOL...Trevino may be one of the best ball strikers of all time but he wasn't to smart when it came to instruction.

Tell a bunch of high handicaps who already have problems slicing the ball to "push fade" it is crazy haha
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Yes... for a Steep, Bent Plane, Early Releasing, Throwaway Type Slicer... the Trevino Fade would probably not be the best place to start. This guy needs to get on Plane, learn to control the Clubface, learn some basic Hinge Action, and learn to sustain the line of compression(Lag). Basic Imperatives and Essentials will help him.

For the good player, that is looking for a shot that will hold up under extreme pressure... the Trevino Fade, or "Block" may be something to try.
Trevino knew that ball was not going LEFT, and could just fire it out there in U.S. Opens... usually right down the middle! The FADES, by the way, that I have seen him hit, did not fade much.
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Old 04-04-2005, 02:04 PM
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LOL...Trevino may be one of the best ball strikers of all time but he wasn't to smart when it came to instruction.

Tell a bunch of high handicaps who already have problems slicing the ball to "push fade" it is crazy haha
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Yes... for a Steep, Bent Plane, Early Releasing, Throwaway Type Slicer... the Trevino Fade would probably not be the best place to start. This guy needs to get on Plane, learn to control the Clubface, learn some basic Hinge Action, and learn to sustain the line of compression(Lag). Basic Imperatives and Essentials will help him.

For the good player, that is looking for a shot that will hold up under extreme pressure... the Trevino Fade, or "Block" may be something to try.
Trevino knew that ball was not going LEFT, and could just fire it out there in U.S. Opens... usually right down the middle! The FADES, by the way, that I have seen him hit, did not fade much.
I never said it was a bad shot, i think its a great shot for good players who know how to control their clubface, just not for the "majority" of weekend golfers.
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Ya but if you hit a PUSH fade then you aren't coming over the top.
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Originally Posted by jim_0068
LOL...Trevino may be one of the best ball strikers of all time but he wasn't to smart when it came to instruction.

Tell a bunch of high handicaps who already have problems slicing the ball to "push fade" it is crazy haha
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Yes... for a Steep, Bent Plane, Early Releasing, Throwaway Type Slicer... the Trevino Fade would probably not be the best place to start. This guy needs to get on Plane, learn to control the Clubface, learn some basic Hinge Action, and learn to sustain the line of compression(Lag). Basic Imperatives and Essentials will help him.

For the good player, that is looking for a shot that will hold up under extreme pressure... the Trevino Fade, or "Block" may be something to try.
Trevino knew that ball was not going LEFT, and could just fire it out there in U.S. Opens... usually right down the middle! The FADES, by the way, that I have seen him hit, did not fade much.
I never said it was a bad shot, i think its a great shot for good players who know how to control their clubface, just not for the "majority" of weekend golfers.
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Yes Jim... I think the Clubface is one of the keys here. The SLICER with poor clubface education should probably not try the Trevino shot.
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LOL...not unless they want to become even worse slicers.
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