LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - FIX Thread: FIX View Single Post #9 08-23-2005, 01:20 PM 12 piece bucket Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Thomasville, NC Posts: 4,380 Re: 2-J-1 Originally Posted by lagster Originally Posted by Mike O Per 2-J-1 "The longer the SHOT", not "The longer the CLUB". For most of you, including annikan, jim, lagster - you already know that. You were saying longer club and assuming that you are talking about a longer shot. Although a longer club doesn't always mean a longer shot. However for anyone new or learning- the clarification could help them. For those new to TGM the next question is " Why more open the longer the shot?" Because as again, most know by now- the more compression, the more distance the clubhead travels and the more the face closes while the ball is on the face. Now the real question is- if on the longer shots the face closes enough while the ball is on the face- to make alterations in the amount the clubface is open at impact fix for horizontal hinging, then how long of a distance is the ball traveling on the clubface/clubhead? And how does that integrate with the Golfing Machine concept that the ball always leaves at right angles to the clubface- i.e. that the return flow is so fast that the ball doesn't ride on the clubhead/face long enough for the down and out vector of the clubhead to influence the initial direction of the ball? Mike O. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good point!!!! A chip shot with a 5 iron would br different than a full shot in this regard. And such is the genius of Mr. Kelley. This guy must have been amazing. Shame that he missed out on the internet . . . or even more a shame for us. __________________ Aloha Mr. Hand Behold my hands; reach hither thy hand 12 piece bucket View Public Profile Send a private message to 12 piece bucket Find all posts by 12 piece bucket