LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Pivot - Active or Passive Thread: Pivot - Active or Passive View Single Post #8 02-15-2006, 09:44 PM oztrainee Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 53 Hands controlled Pivot Tongz Good post Tongz, plain English, easier for me to understand. both pivot and hands got to be trained. 12PB Spoke to Comdpa about some drill, and he was recommended chipping with Cross Grip. I was trying it myself, and I can only chip with it. Correct me if I am wrong, Cross Grip will give you a Slice Tendency, and therefore if we are using it as a drill hitting 7 iron, it will help us to learn how to swivel. LEARN TO ROTATE THE CLUB FACE Obviously some Ai will not require you to do your finish swivel, particular if you are doing angle and vertical hinging shot. Even though if you are a SWINGER, the right arm is just as important. You can swivel the clubface with either hand and not just the left hand. (Left arm always swinging, right arm always driving or SWINGING) Some pivot Ai will totally disagreed to the above, as they believe that (Once you have your hands educated) the pivot do all the work for you. Yes, but you have to train your hand first. First learn to hook the ball ( At that stage you might have to work a little bit with the ball position, and it will move the machine back a little bit). Keep training your hands. Our brain is so clever that if you hands is not train ( Not be able to rotate the clubface) The pivot will not help us to move the ball position forward (Rotate). There are other points will help us to achieve the above, but is rather natural for most TGMers anyway. At address, we try to setup for zero shift, which our left wrist position higher (between uncock and level position), use more of the elbow to lift the club up.. Everyone have different feeling of clubface rotation, some people feel like they are doing it right at the top, and some are later. I think we just have to experiment with it. But certainly what Compda recommend CROSS GRIP CHIPPING is certainly something help to teach our hands to rotate. __________________ I am not East Coast nor West Coast... I stick to the MIDLAND http://www.par543.com/tgman.gif Support http://www.homerkelley.org http://www.homerkelley.org//skins/co...mages/wiki.png oztrainee View Public Profile Send a private message to oztrainee Visit oztrainee's homepage! Find all posts by oztrainee