[Mathew]

Who did Mr. Haney learn from... was it not Jim Hardy? I've heard him speak at a couple of P.G.A. Teaching seminars. His idea of plane had something to do with congruent lines. He said he did not understand the big deal about lag. He thought the guys that had a lot lag(probably Accumulator Lag) were usually short hitters.

Now... I've seen a video of Evan Williams(Big Cat), and he has Accumulator Lag, Clubhead Lag... and probably Pivot Lag, and he destroys the ball!! I suppose there are some lagging short hitters, but there are LONG ONES TOO.

Mr. Haney is, however, doing many thing well. He obviously gets good results with many people. He is great at marketing himself, just as David Leadbetter is.

Basically their concept is that the clubshaft is always parallel to the original plane angle - plane angle doesn't change yet the baseline does - the reverse of the truth... their plane line just became a U shape... - its rubbish mind you - with this theory there can be no downplane force. This doesn't stop Tiger subconciously knowing he needs to adjust to create one though....