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Old 06-12-2006, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mathew
No, I disagree. Its rightful place is in zone 2. The travel between each Hinge action is different (rhythm) has everything to do with the clubhead and the straightening right arm for the procedure at hand.... hence clubhead control.
Thanks Mathew for the reply, however I find the reason you have given is inadequate for me. I hope those who agree are not agreeing just because Homer made the changes, ipso facto, it must be correct. If it is so obvious that Hinge Action belongs to Zone #2, then why did Homer put it in Zone #3 in the 6th Edition? Was it just a careless mistake? I bet you it wasn't. Have the reasons that got Hinge Action in Zone #3 become invalid or superseded by other reasons? This is what I want to know.

I get the feeling that if Hinge Action were to be in Zone #2 in the 6th Edition, but moved to Zone #3 in the 7th Edition, everyone will be saying that it belongs to Zone #3 and will give all the possible reasons to validate the change.

This is such an exciting topic and can be explored from so many different angles. Lets start with the common sense approach. How many times have you heard about Hinge Action being used to control the Clubhead? Compare this to the number of times Hinge Action being associated with Clubface control. I can tell you for sure the latter far outweighs the former by a lot. Let me give you a few examples:

Originally Posted by Yoda
There are three major concepts in The Golfing Machine:

1. Hinge Action (Clubface control);

2. Angular Motion (Clubhead Control); and

3. The Inclined Plane (Clubshaft and Sweetspot Control).

To these Three Major Concepts is attached endless supporting detail. Unless and until the 'Big Three' are understood, that detail continues to baffle and confuse, and the Book -- not to mention the Golf Stroke -- remains a mystery.

Now to your question. The Golfer's Flail is the means by which Angular Motion and Momentum is generated (2-K). It is a Clubhead concept and thus totally distinct from the Hinge Action (a Clubface concept). To be sure, there are interrelationships, but these do not override the separate identities of each.

Reading between the lines of your question, the Hinge Pins of the Golfer's Flail (in the Left Wrist and Shoulder) are there to permit, create and sustain Clubhead Momentum. They are not to be confused with the Hinge Pins of the Left Shoulder Hinge Assembly, which are there to control the Clubface and maintain the Clubshaft On Plane.
Topic:2-c-3 Ballistic path
Originally Posted by Yoda
"Our next step is to learn how to use your Flat and Vertical Left Wrist
to replicate the Mechanical Motion of each of the Three Hinge Actions. The
goal is to convert our carefully developed G.O.L.F. Engineering System into
your eagerly awaiting G.O.L.F. Feel System. When that happens, you will have
gained total control of the Clubface for the rest of your life."
Originally Posted by Yoda
Originally Posted by rwh
The Hands are strong, educated, adjustable Clamps that serve not only to attach the Club to the power package but, also, to control the clubface.

Hands (Zone 3) = clubface Control. Arms (Zone 2) = Power Package
Bob is back , and as usual, is right on target.

We need ya, rwh.

Pul-ease...

Keep on posting!
There are many more so I will not bore you with more quotes.

But lets here what Homer Kelly had to say in the 7th Edition about Hinge Actions:

""Hinge Actions" describe and control the manipulation of the Hands through the Impact Interval. This Hand manipulation in turn controls the Clubface MOTIONS."
(7-10)
Sounds like Zone #3 to me.

But like Mathew said, each Hinge Action has a different Rhythm and hence difference Clubhead Travel. But that's only because of Accumulator #3. If we zero out Accumulator #3 all three Hinge Actions will have identical Clubhead Travel. Accumulator #3 is about Power and Force not Purpose or Direction and hence belongs to Zone #2 (see 9-0).

Having said all this, there are things Homer has added in the 7th Edition that needs to be examined. For example, the 6th paragraph of 7-10:

“The Left Shoulder, the Right Elbow and/or the Wrists supply the Clubhead Hinging because it does not require more control than that of Swivel type Hinging; However, The Flat Left Wrist supplies the precision Hinge Motion Control required for the Clubface. The Flat Left Wrist rides The Lever Assemblies and its relationship is constant. But also independent by reason of its required relationship to the Basic Planes per 2-G. Per sketch 1-L, Hinge Action is inseparable from Angular Motion and so it can only go aright or awry but not away."


I have more to say lets have more people chiming in...
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