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Old 06-25-2006, 08:23 PM
golf_sceptic golf_sceptic is offline
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So I asked for a summary, probably won't get it but we will see.
Oh ye of little faith! Here it is...

Sources of power in the golf swing (focussed on the club)
1. early in the downswing -- leverage through "locked" wrists
2. mid-downswing to impact -- the slingshot (or flail) effect
together with leverage applied through the hands.

TGM
1. The most comprehensive theory on swinging a golf club
2. Contains some misconceptions which detract from
the frequent claims that it is based in physics but do not
detract from its usefulness as a teaching tool (eg centrifugal
force, endless belt effect, swinger v hitter dichotomy)
3. Suffers from non-standard use of terms which make for
confusing discussions (vertical is the worst in this regard)

Centrifugal force
1. One of the worst understood concepts in physics
2. Not a source of power in any context

For the record Martee's response to my summary
would enable me to write something much better
in the "sources of power" section if asked for
a summary now.

Quote:
Just told them off...
Oh, so that's what your uninformative rant was.
I hope you felt better afterwords and earned
a few brownie points here following your boast.

I'll consider myself told, but you do realise you
were told off by one of the moderators at ISG
for your post don't you? You were well out of order.

Your rant won't stop me from explaining why centrifugal
force does not cause the "throw out effect", or
why the endless belt model is bogus, or explaining
why one or two of the definitions in the little
yellow book are complete gobbledegook, or continuing
to explore the hitter/swinger issue (ok red herring
is a bit strong).

As I say on ISG, let's suppose that there are a few
problems with the words of Mr Kelley. Will knowledge
of those flaws put TGM on firmer or shakier ground?

Quote:
I'm happy with the path that I've chosen and
my knowledge of the Golf swing that I've acquired
from HK and this forum and its members and other TGM people.
...as you should be. Don't mistake my blasphemy as an
attempt to discredit TGM. I just think it would be
better if the high priests of TGM didn't have to paper over
the theoretical cracks quite as much. Surely anybody who knows
both physics and wants a bright future for TGM is
embarassed by the centrifugal force thing.

There's no need to feel threatened. We come in peace!


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