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Originally Posted by strav
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Hi Birdie_Man. As you started this thread and welcomed the debate, you may be one of the last objective participants. If so, for your information, here is "Centrifugal force" from a neutral, namely Encyclopedia Britannica.
"Centrifugal Force, quantity, peculiar to a particle moving on a circular path, that has the same magnitude and dimensions as the force that keeps the particle on its circular path (the centripetal force) but points in the opposite direction. A stone whirling in a horizontal plane on the end of a string tied to a post on the ground is continuously changing the direction of its velocity and, therefore, has acceleration toward the post. This force is equal to the square of its velocity divided by the length of the string According to Newton’s second law; acceleration is caused by a force, which in this case is the tension in the string. If the stone is moving at a constant speed and gravity is neglected, the inward-pointing string tension is the only force acting on the stone. If the string breaks, the stone, because of inertia, will keep on going in a straight line tangent to its previous circular path; it is not the influence of a centrifugal “force” that will make the stone fly off in a radially outward direction.
Although it is not a real force according to Newton’s laws, the centrifugal-force concept is a useful one. For example, when analyzing the behaviour of the fluid in a cream separator or a centrifuge, it is convenient to study the fluid’s behaviour relative to the rotating container rather than, relative to the Earth; and, in order that Newton’s laws be applicable in such a rotating frame of reference, an inertial force, or a fictitious force (the centrifugal force), equal and opposite to the centripetal force, must be included in the equations of motion. In a frame of reference attached to the whirling stone, the stone is at rest; to obtain a balanced force system, the outward-acting centrifugal force must be included.
Centrifugal force can be increased by increasing either (1) the speed of rotation, (2) the mass of the body, or (3) the radius, the distance of the body from the centre of the curve. Increasing either the mass or the radius increases the centrifugal force proportionally, but increasing the speed of rotation increases it in proportion to the square of the speed; that is, an increase in speed of 10 times, say from 10 to 100 revolutions per minute, increases the centrifugal force by a factor of 100. Centrifugal force is expressed as a multiple of g, the symbol for normal gravitational force (strictly speaking, the acceleration due to gravity). Centrifugal fields of more than 1,000,000,000 g have been produced in the laboratory. "
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Aw man why me.....too early for this stuff (I know it's 11:46 but I just got up....hey- it's summer time
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KK I'll try....
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I realize that CF isn't (by definition) a "FORCE"....
Reactive force would u call it? I dunno.
Whatever you want to call it....I don't think you can deny that the effect is there.
Anyway.....but what does it DO in the golf swing? And what does Homer SAY it does? And.........what CAUSES the Release....what does Homer say causes it? (anything else? That's all I can think of...)
I guess those are the issues.
It's obviously there at some point (I'm thinkin only beyond the Release...but I'm not sure).....so
does it do anything really?
Dunno that I can answer that.
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I haven't been following this thread too much....haven't been reading the massive posts BTW.
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Part of me says that Homer must've known some of this stuff.....Centripetal, etc.....I think I remember reading something about "him just sticking with calling it CF because....." (something about it being a well-known term or something).....
....but that still doesn't make it make much sense to me.....you'd think Homer woulda said "Screw what everyone wants to call it....I'm gonna write my own book..."
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Ya that's all I can give you right now I think....brain says nuh-uh.
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BTW I dunno if I'm the only one who wants to see a summary of positions (i.e. your stance on the issues.....your beefs, etc.....don't have to summarize this whole thread or anything)....for both "sides" I guess. Catch everyone up and get everyone's heads on straight again.