[birdie_man]

With irons off a tee it can still be out in front....

....and further back if u want a higher shot.

Depends on the iron in hand and the trajectory u want.

And u can change your setup beforehand to adjust it without adjusting your stroke too. i.e. stance width, ball position, weight distribution (they all affect where the ball is in relation to the left shoulder)

You still will want to hit down on an iron. (it may be obvious....or it may be only very slightly, and not obvious at all...especially with, say- a longer iron off a tee...)

Longer irons I USUALLY tee up a little higher (than a short iron) and make a less descending strike. (feels more "sweeping") I don't always take a divot.

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As for drivers...

With a NORMAL, full driver....ya ur Aiming Point will be further back than if you want to crisp an iron sitting off a tight fairway.

Now if you're TRYING to hit the driver low you might shift the AP more fwd....

...even then tho.....

....I mean....myself, I just pretty much tee it down a bit more....and/or adjust my weight distribution at Address. (this serves to move the ball back...cause it IS more back in relation to the left shoulder)

Then make the same motion.

As for SHIFTING it forward mid-swing....Aiming your hands.....I guess you could do that....or do that on top of those other adjustments to hit er really low...

Depends on the player and the shot I guess.

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BTW besides Aiming Point and where ur hands are at Impact another good way to think of all this is how much shaft lean you have at Impact.

Know when you need more or need less.