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So, you could hit it 90% as far without moving the body? Surely not...try hitting balls without any shoulder turn and tell me how you go?

I agree the hands are important, but those numbers don't seem to make sense at all....can you point me to the data?

Or am I misinterpreting what you are saying?

Sure thing mate, please PM me your email and I will send you the materials.

I have already tried what you recommended a long time ago and my experience is as below - I would like for you to try what you said first and share the results, more importantly, you can prove or disprove this to YOURSELF, the person that matters most!

With a good strike, I can reach 85-90% of my regular distance with my feet together and/or standing on one leg (left or right)

I can hit a lob wedge about 65 yards with the right hand and 50 yards with the left hand.

When I last hit a driver on my knees some 13 months back, it went about 230 yards through the air - this is without a snap release and speed training. I am not too sure what I can achieve now.

Some months back I heard Mr Kelley quoted (Lynn and Mike O should be able to verify this) before that "you will be very surprised how far you can hit it with little shoulder turn".

Now mate, when you mention "try hitting balls without any shoulder turn", I just do not think it is possible to do a completely zero shoulder turn and yet get my hands high enough.

Being the scientist that I am, I went out to the range to prove Mr. Kelley wrong. In science, to prove a theory, you try to disprove it.

I lifted my arms up allowing some bend in the left arm while keeping my shoulders as square as possible - I got the same 85% to 90% distance when I got a good strike. Due to lack of practice, I was obviously not very consistent with such a move.

For the record, I do not believe that a "90 degree turn of the shoulders" is needful for distance and I don't use it in my procedure. Its not a flexibility issue too - I can do full splits with ease.

The shoulder turn to me is about plane issues. If you have a flat plane angle, you need more turn to get the right shoulder on plane. Vice versa for a steep plane angle. Please reference 10-13-0.

I have also tested myself doing John Daly-esque swings and yes, I do hit my driver further about 8-13 yards, but at the cost of improper contact, wayward direction and back pain.

Food for thought...how far do you think Bruce Lee would hit his driver if he were a 7 marker?