[spike]

Not sure how to say it in TGM language. Maybe you guys can decipher the words for me.

When I see my swing on video, it shocks me how much hip bump, axis tilt and shift there is when I don't even feel it or try to do it. On video the hip/shift certainly looks like it is moving first. What I do feel and intend is throwing the clubhead down, out and through the ball.

The funny thing is, that when the shaft gets out of alignment to the body's center and then force is applied to the shaft the body wants to respond or get out of the way of that force. Even if it is off plane.

Could this be called Lag Force Direction Hands Controlled Pivot? Isn't it the "intended" force and it's direction that causes the hip bump or shift? And wouldn't the left hip clear due to the sustaining of that force?

The other way around, for me, is too hard to time. And I don't think I'm limber enough to move the hip first without losing the directional integrity of the downswing flying wedges. The Thai people can do it. They seem to be able to separate the lower body from the upper quite easily. Not me...there is no distinction between my upper and lower body....it's a beer keg!