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02-06-2008, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike O
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Daryl,
Ignore this post of mine if it is going to get your thread off track (I know with Bucket involved you are already off track but I'm ingoring that "issue").
No joke- I've been crazy busy so normally I would find it in the 7th edition but can you quote Homer in the 7th edition regarding "Same RPM's or anyone. Then I wouldn't mind chiming on in your thread.
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What in the world are you talking about? Is this a statement? A question?
Can you please take your finger out of your nose and type with BOTH index fingers.
Mike Oberdorkusloski . . . ROBOT IN DISGUISE.
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02-06-2008, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mrodock
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If you are talking about axis tilt Lee Buck had as much as just about anyone that made a living at the game. (at least the video/photos I've seen)
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Come on goober . . . you know how this works . . .
Look at the hips . . .
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02-06-2008, 04:42 PM
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Aren't hip slant and axis tilt two different things? Lee Buck's left shoulder is very high, and right shoulder very low at impact. To me, this is axis tilt. I agree that Duval's left hip is much higher, right hip much lower at impact and after impact.
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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02-06-2008, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mrodock
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Aren't hip slant and axis tilt two different things? Lee Buck's left shoulder is very high, and right shoulder very low at impact. To me, this is axis tilt. I agree that Duval's left hip is much higher, right hip much lower at impact and after impact.
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Look at Lee Buck Frame 11 vs. Duval Frame 5 . . .
Plus look at Lee Frame 12 vs. this finish . . .

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Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 02-06-2008 at 04:55 PM.
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02-06-2008, 05:20 PM
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Seeing Is Believing
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Here we go:
Take a look at Frame 4.
This is Pivot Lag (with its Downstroke Shoulder Turn Lag per 6-B-4-C) and the Downstroke Release Sequence as explained in 2-M-1.
For those who believe that the 'Magic of the Right Forearm' involves a straightening of the Right Elbow ('Forearm' action) from the Top, please understand that there may be a tremendous difference between Feel and Real.
The Pivot Delivers the Power Package -- Assembled, Loaded and intact with its Power Stored -- deep into the Downstroke. Only then is it Released (the lengthening of the Third Side of the Triangle, the straightening Right Arm).

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02-06-2008, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Take a look at Frame 4.
This is Pivot Lag and the Downstroke Release Sequence as explained in 2-M-1.
For those who believe that the 'Magic of the Right Forearm' involves a straightening of the Right Elbow ('Forearm' action) from the Top, please understand that there may be a tremendous difference between Feel and Real.
The Pivot Delivers the Power Package -- Assembled, Loaded and intact with its Power Stored -- deep into the Downstroke. Only then is it Released (the lengthening of the Third Side of the Triangle, the straightening Right Arm).
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First me and Daryl are fightin' . . .next me and Mr. & Mrs. Mrodock . . . and now you are trying to get u-no-who out of the woodwork??? Not to mention coming off the top rope on Mike O . . .
There's going to be a lotta people taking fire 'round here now . . . TAKE COVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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02-06-2008, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Look at Lee Buck Frame 11 vs. Duval Frame 5 . . .
Plus look at Lee Frame 12 vs. this finish . . .
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Would you look at that!!!! DD wearing a Titleist cap and hitting a TM Burner with a bubble shaft! Nice stroll down memory lane.
Thanks Bucket!
CG
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02-06-2008, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cometgolfer
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Would you look at that!!!! DD wearing a Titleist cap and hitting a TM Burner with a bubble shaft! Nice stroll down memory lane.
Thanks Bucket!
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Too bad his shirt didn't have a 3rd sleeve, purple would have been cute!
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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02-06-2008, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Look at Lee Buck Frame 11 vs. Duval Frame 5 . . .
Plus look at Lee Frame 12 vs. this finish . . .
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Okay, I think I see what you mean, Lee Buck's head is a lot further left at impact than Duval's, same with after impact. I think we were having a debate on semantics more than anything.
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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02-06-2008, 06:43 PM
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As far as Lee Buck's stock low trajectory is concerned another contributing factor would be, in Bobby Clampett's terms, a swing bottom that is far ahead of the ball.
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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