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02-06-2008, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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I'm looking at a sequence of Duval . . . his wrist stays bent pretty good but he Up-Plane quicker than Lee Buck. Plus he hits it higher because he has more Tilt.
I think Duval is the best 10-2-D grip model . . . he was as good as anybody when he was winning.
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If you are talking about axis tilt Lee Buck had as much as just about anyone that made a living at the game. (at least the video/photos I've seen)
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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02-06-2008, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mrodock
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If you are talking about axis tilt Lee Buck had as much as just about anyone that made a living at the game. (at least the video/photos I've seen)
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Come on goober . . . you know how this works . . .
Look at the hips . . .
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02-06-2008, 04:42 PM
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Aren't hip slant and axis tilt two different things? Lee Buck's left shoulder is very high, and right shoulder very low at impact. To me, this is axis tilt. I agree that Duval's left hip is much higher, right hip much lower at impact and after impact.
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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02-06-2008, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mrodock
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Aren't hip slant and axis tilt two different things? Lee Buck's left shoulder is very high, and right shoulder very low at impact. To me, this is axis tilt. I agree that Duval's left hip is much higher, right hip much lower at impact and after impact.
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Look at Lee Buck Frame 11 vs. Duval Frame 5 . . .
Plus look at Lee Frame 12 vs. this finish . . .
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Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 02-06-2008 at 04:55 PM.
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02-06-2008, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Look at Lee Buck Frame 11 vs. Duval Frame 5 . . .
Plus look at Lee Frame 12 vs. this finish . . .
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Would you look at that!!!! DD wearing a Titleist cap and hitting a TM Burner with a bubble shaft! Nice stroll down memory lane.
Thanks Bucket!
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02-06-2008, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cometgolfer
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Would you look at that!!!! DD wearing a Titleist cap and hitting a TM Burner with a bubble shaft! Nice stroll down memory lane.
Thanks Bucket!
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Too bad his shirt didn't have a 3rd sleeve, purple would have been cute!
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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02-06-2008, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Look at Lee Buck Frame 11 vs. Duval Frame 5 . . .
Plus look at Lee Frame 12 vs. this finish . . .
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Okay, I think I see what you mean, Lee Buck's head is a lot further left at impact than Duval's, same with after impact. I think we were having a debate on semantics more than anything.
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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02-06-2008, 06:43 PM
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As far as Lee Buck's stock low trajectory is concerned another contributing factor would be, in Bobby Clampett's terms, a swing bottom that is far ahead of the ball.
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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02-06-2008, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mrodock
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Okay, I think I see what you mean, Lee Buck's head is a lot further left at impact than Duval's, same with after impact. I think we were having a debate on semantics more than anything.
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I don't care what you do on your own time . . . but you and Mike can do whatever you do with semantics in your own closets.
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02-06-2008, 08:28 PM
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Semantics
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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I don't care what you do on your own time . . . but you and Mike can do whatever you do with semantics in your own closets.
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What are you doing saying thinking when I do think I said that you should YA that's right then if you listen to what I said you would know that when the semantics aren't left you would not be able to go there - I think because yes I was there - well you would need to go under and then - Oh of course- now what were you talking about?  Does anyone know where I put my medicine?
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