Push Basic Magic

[Daryl]

During my practice stroke, for long putts, I hold my finish position at low point and then look at the hole. For some reason I can get a feel for how much thrust I need.

I completely agree Spike. It's becoming instinctual. Now when I look at the long putt, My body adjusts automatically to the distance. It wasn't like that at first. At first, short and medium length putts were easy but I had make a conscious effort to set-up up for longer putts.

[Thom]

I completely agree Spike. It's becoming instinctual. Now when I look at the long putt, My body adjusts automatically to the distance. It wasn't like that at first. At first, short and medium length putts were easy but I had make a conscious effort to set-up up for longer putts.

It's like throwing a ball a certain length. We know from experience how much thrust, at which angel and when to let the ball go.

It's the same kind of experience you get with putting. You will know how much thrust.......etc.

And practicing chipping, pitching, punching etc. will teach you how much, thrust, lenght of stroke etc will be needed to get the ball to a certain landing spot............all of this experience will be stored in the PP#3

[okie]

I marvel at the ability of TGM proficients to power down the lag pressure to produce a different ball flight effect. It is something that I work on every time I pound pills. While working on the push basic stroke was the I sensed (for the first time) a change of gears with regard to lag pressure. Make sense? At least I hope that is what I am feeling! My hydraulic system has a couple of gears!

[coolstv88]

Does the push basic stroke require a putter that has a bitmore loft than traditional putting with swinging and vertical hinging? Would a bit more loftmake itpossible to use a bit more of a centered ball possition than so far forward as with traditional push basic stroke. THis seems to be what Stan Utley advocates, using a putter with 6 degrees of loft, and feels his acumulator #1, and a frozen right wrist although he does not use TGM terms.

[finster869]

Okie-
Are you using a slightly open stance with the push basic stroke? I have been experimenting with it for the past few weeks with success.

How about any other "push basic stroke" putters who are out there? Do you use an open stance, or parallel to the target line?

[okie]

Sorry…I just saw this. I set up square-open not quite like Dianne in 10-3-E though! A couple things I have figured out about a push basic stroke.

Make sure you position your right elbow in a push basic fashion…it is a rather contrived feeling. My tendency is to inadvertently get into more of a punch elbow position (feels less contrived, I guess)
Initially I had distance control issues from close range (a common plight it seems!) I figured out that I was not taking advantage of the fact that the right push basic elbow is already primed for action given its bent status…on shorter putts I take the “pre-loaded” elbow back then go to both arms straight . Obviously for longer putts the club goes further up the plane i.e. more right elbow bend.
Push basic gets me closer to the ball, with a distinctly more upright plane.
ALWAYS go to both arms straight, or at least right arm straight…it don’t work otherwise!

[Seanmx]

See:

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...cksputting0803

[okie]

Thanks for that. Great pictures.

I started playing golf in 1986. Why? The first nine holes of golf I ever watched on TV was Jack's final round back nine at Augusta! I rememeber the parabolic flight of his second shot into 15, like it was yesterday.

He arches his slightly rolled left wrist to keep the putter lower going back (a move that some great putters demostrated - Bobby Locke, Horton smith, Walter Hagen etc.) This obviously increases his right wrist bend...which moves back to its fix postion at impact...then he allows the left wrist to bend ever so slightly in the follow through...hence the higher club head. Not to rouse the shoulder putees out there but the key to Jack's technique is his quiet shoulders + all the other x factor intangibles that we do not have sufficient instrumentation to quantify!

I seem to remember Jack mentioning in one of his instruction books, or perhaps an article that he would change his elbow position based on one of the following negative tendencies: to punch if he was not making solid impact and push if he was not stroking it on his chosen line. I'm doing a similar thing: punch for longer putts, push for shorter putts...as long as I do not mix shoulders only with arms only!

Thanks again, Sean

[Seanmx]

Thanks for that. Great pictures.

I started playing golf in 1986. Why? The first nine holes of golf I ever watched on TV was Jack's final round back nine at Augusta! I rememeber the parabolic flight of his second shot into 15, like it was yesterday.

He arches his slightly rolled left wrist to keep the putter lower going back (a move that some great putters demostrated - Bobby Locke, Horton smith, Walter Hagen etc.) This obviously increases his right wrist bend...which moves back to its fix postion at impact...then he allows the left wrist to bend ever so slightly in the follow through...hence the higher club head. Not to rouse the shoulder putees out there but the key to Jack's technique is his quiet shoulders + all the other x factor intangibles that we do not have sufficient instrumentation to quantify!

I seem to remember Jack mentioning in one of his instruction books, or perhaps an article that he would change his elbow position based on one of the following negative tendencies: to punch if he was not making solid impact and push if he was not stroking it on his chosen line. I'm doing a similar thing: punch for longer putts, push for shorter putts...as long as I do not mix shoulders only with arms only!

Thanks again, Sean

I've always wondered why more don't copy Jack. I've started using a lot of the elements of his method and I find it much more consistant than the stuff I was doing before. In particular I find that the bent right arm stores up plenty of power to get the ball to the hole on slow greens.

[okie]

I have to admit on occasion from short range I will mash one…if the hole don’t get in the way I’m looking like a prized fool. The beauty of this procedure is the positive impact…no steering. The drawback…for me anyway…is how do you go to both arms straight on a two foot putt? No doubt I just need to recalibrate the amount of right arm bend/length of the backstroke. I have had a little more success going to a push elbow (I actually use punch for most putts)position for the shorties.