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Old 03-19-2008, 07:24 AM
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Thanks for that. Great pictures.

I started playing golf in 1986. Why? The first nine holes of golf I ever watched on TV was Jack's final round back nine at Augusta! I rememeber the parabolic flight of his second shot into 15, like it was yesterday.

He arches his slightly rolled left wrist to keep the putter lower going back (a move that some great putters demostrated - Bobby Locke, Horton smith, Walter Hagen etc.) This obviously increases his right wrist bend...which moves back to its fix postion at impact...then he allows the left wrist to bend ever so slightly in the follow through...hence the higher club head. Not to rouse the shoulder putees out there but the key to Jack's technique is his quiet shoulders + all the other x factor intangibles that we do not have sufficient instrumentation to quantify!

I seem to remember Jack mentioning in one of his instruction books, or perhaps an article that he would change his elbow position based on one of the following negative tendencies: to punch if he was not making solid impact and push if he was not stroking it on his chosen line. I'm doing a similar thing: punch for longer putts, push for shorter putts...as long as I do not mix shoulders only with arms only!

Thanks again, Sean
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Old 03-19-2008, 11:42 AM
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Thanks for that. Great pictures.

I started playing golf in 1986. Why? The first nine holes of golf I ever watched on TV was Jack's final round back nine at Augusta! I rememeber the parabolic flight of his second shot into 15, like it was yesterday.

He arches his slightly rolled left wrist to keep the putter lower going back (a move that some great putters demostrated - Bobby Locke, Horton smith, Walter Hagen etc.) This obviously increases his right wrist bend...which moves back to its fix postion at impact...then he allows the left wrist to bend ever so slightly in the follow through...hence the higher club head. Not to rouse the shoulder putees out there but the key to Jack's technique is his quiet shoulders + all the other x factor intangibles that we do not have sufficient instrumentation to quantify!

I seem to remember Jack mentioning in one of his instruction books, or perhaps an article that he would change his elbow position based on one of the following negative tendencies: to punch if he was not making solid impact and push if he was not stroking it on his chosen line. I'm doing a similar thing: punch for longer putts, push for shorter putts...as long as I do not mix shoulders only with arms only!

Thanks again, Sean
I've always wondered why more don't copy Jack. I've started using a lot of the elements of his method and I find it much more consistant than the stuff I was doing before. In particular I find that the bent right arm stores up plenty of power to get the ball to the hole on slow greens.
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Old 03-19-2008, 12:11 PM
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I have to admit on occasion from short range I will mash one…if the hole don’t get in the way I’m looking like a prized fool. The beauty of this procedure is the positive impact…no steering. The drawback…for me anyway…is how do you go to both arms straight on a two foot putt? No doubt I just need to recalibrate the amount of right arm bend/length of the backstroke. I have had a little more success going to a push elbow (I actually use punch for most putts)position for the shorties.
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Old 03-19-2008, 01:16 PM
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I have to admit on occasion from short range I will mash one…if the hole don’t get in the way I’m looking like a prized fool. The beauty of this procedure is the positive impact…no steering. The drawback…for me anyway…is how do you go to both arms straight on a two foot putt? No doubt I just need to recalibrate the amount of right arm bend/length of the backstroke. I have had a little more success going to a push elbow (I actually use punch for most putts)position for the shorties.
I asked Ted about this when I saw him last.
He said that you do not adjust the length of the backstroke (what I was trying to do, which was disrupting rhythm). You adjust the SPEED of the putter through impact, sensing the reduced lag pressure. This allows you to go to both arms straight, even on very short putts. Just make sure that you program the whole stroke for the amount of lag pressure you need. Do not try to slow down on the downstroke or you will be quitting and that produces VERY undesirable results.
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Old 03-19-2008, 09:34 PM
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Thanks for passing that tidbit on to me. That is easier said than done, but it is something to work on. I have to admit that I "woes out" and go to the old shoulder move, using acc. # 4 on the shorties!
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