Tell me about the Taly

[dcg1952]

Saw this while viewing the Barclays thread. What does it do?? Does it really work?? Worth getting?? Work for hitters and swingers?? Any info appreciated.

[Yoda]

Saw this while viewing the Barclays thread. What does it do?? Does it really work?? Worth getting?? Work for hitters and swingers?? Any info appreciated.

I think the Taly is a great training aid. It has helped my students master the Basic Motion, the Flat Left Wrist and Rhythm better than anything I've seen. We'll soon offer it for sale in our Pro Shop at a discount to our members. I strongly recommend the Taly and plan on shooting a short video on how I use it.

[dcg1952]

Thanks Lynn----wow, only took 32 minutes for a response! I'm having trouble keeping up with the pace here!!

[6bmike]

Saw this while viewing the Barclays thread. What does it do?? Does it really work?? Worth getting?? Work for hitters and swingers?? Any info appreciated.

I had problems setting up at address with it -I think I wore it wrong since checking out his product web site- but loved using it with basic and aquired motion. You won't believe how unflat the left wrist can get without monitoring it into a feel.

[Yoda]

I had problems setting up at address with it -I think I wore it wrong . . .

That's the point, Mike.

When the Left Wrist is Bent ("Address Hands") the forward-leaning Taly ("Impact Hands") and perpendicular-to-the-line Clubshaft conflict. I am always amused as I watch students trying to figure out how to 'untangle' the the two. Then finally, comes the dawn: They realize that they must move their Hands much more forward (so that the Taly and the Clubshaft are parallel). For the first time, they discover for themselves the proper Hands and Clubshaft Impact alignments.

Then, during the Stroke, they've got to maintain that relationship. For that to happen, the Hands cannot Quit (3-F-7-B); instead, they must keep moving throughout the Stroke. And that means the student must keep the Clubhead behind the Hands. Eureka!

In the initial training, I have students set up at Impact Fix -- there is no Taly / Clubshaft conflict there -- and execute the Basic Motion (12-5-1). This is consistent with Homer Kelley's advice to "Practice this [Major Basic Stroke] first at Impact Fix" (Magic of the Right Forearm / 7-3). We then expand that into Acquired Motion (12-5-2) and introduce Pivot Action to Power the Left Arm through.

[6bmike]

That's the point, Mike.

When the Left Wrist is Bent ("Address Hands") the forward-leaning Taly ("Impact Hands") and perpendicular-to-the-line Clubshaft conflict. I am always amused as I watch students trying to figure out how to 'untangle' the the two. Then finally, comes the dawn: They realize that they must move their Hands much more forward (so that the Taly and the Clubshaft are parallel). For the first time, they discover for themselves the proper Hands and Clubshaft Impact alignments.

Then, during the Stroke, they've got to maintain that relationship. For that to happen, the Hands cannot Quit (3-F-7-B); instead, they must keep moving throughout the Stroke. And that means the student must keep the Clubhead behind the Hands. Eureka!

In the initial training, I have students set up at Impact Fix -- there is no Taly / Clubshaft conflict there -- and execute the Basic Motion (12-5-1). This is consistent with Homer Kelley's advice to "Practice this [Major Basic Stroke] first at Impact Fix" (Magic of the Right Forearm / 7-3). We then expand that into Acquired Motion (12-5-2) and introduce Pivot Action to Power the Left Arm through.

No problem addressed in Impact fix but at adjusted address it was awkward. I don't set up in impact fix except for chipping.
On the Taly site the inventor wore in it so the rod was more along the outer side of his forearm than over the back of the hand.

[Yoda]

No problem addressed in Impact fix but at adjusted address it was awkward. I don't set up in impact fix except for chipping.

Mike,

The straight line Taly shaft alignment (with its Forward Lean) should be awkward at Adjusted Address. Impact Hands (7-8 ) are not Address Hands (7-9).

Regarding Fix as an Address alignment, we were practicing a chipping stroke, were we not? And here, given the minimum Stroke constraints, the Impact Address (10-9-B) is a viable alternative to Standard Address (10-9-A), especially in light of Homer's advice to practice Basic Arm / Elbow Action from Fix (Major Basic Stroke / 7-3).

The particular emphasis of our Barclays clinics was Educated Hands and their Impact Alignments. In the short time available, students learned to set the Body and Hands in their Impact alignments and then swing the Arms and deliver the Hands (via the Pivot: "Mark time . . . Right, Left; Right, Left") through Impact. And here, the Taly was an invaluable aid.

[Tom Smart]

Is it worth getting? My answer would be to buy it in bulk in case you lose it or someone steals it from you. Thanks to Lynn I was able to present the Smart Stick at the Barclay's where I was introduced to the Tally. The only negative I have to offer is that I did not invent this great product. I witnessed more people use the Tally and instantly make a dramatic improvement.

[6bmike]

Mike,

The straight line Taly shaft alignment (with its Forward Lean) should be awkward at Adjusted Address. Impact Hands (7-8 ) are not Address Hands (7-9).

Regarding Fix as an Address alignment, we were practicing a chipping stroke, were we not? And here, given the minimum Stroke constraints, the Impact Address (10-9-B) is a viable alternative to Standard Address (10-9-A), especially in light of Homer's advice to practice Basic Arm / Elbow Action from Fix (Major Basic Stroke / 7-3).

The particular emphasis of our Barclays clinics was Educated Hands and their Impact Alignments. In the short time available, students learned to set the Body and Hands in their Impact alignments and then swing the Arms and deliver the Hands (via the Pivot: "Mark time . . . Right, Left; Right, Left") through Impact. And here, the Taly was an invaluable aid.

Yes, you are right Lynn, Impact alignments were the focus, but I didn't drill basic motion with the class - I only had a chance to "fool around' with it between classes and naturally wanted to test drive it in my full swing address position. It is a wonderful aid and should be basic gear in all tgm classes. It educates hands, even for those that think their hands are educated would benefit.

[sdsurfmore]

local Georgia dowel supplier Home depot suffered a major downturn in demand due the Taly Golf Training aid