Saw this while viewing the Barclays thread. What does it do?? Does it really work?? Worth getting?? Work for hitters and swingers?? Any info appreciated.
I had problems setting up at address with it -I think I wore it wrong since checking out his product web site- but loved using it with basic and aquired motion. You won't believe how unflat the left wrist can get without monitoring it into a feel.
I had problems setting up at address with it -I think I wore it wrong . . .
That's the point, Mike.
When the Left Wrist is Bent ("Address Hands") the forward-leaning Taly ("Impact Hands") and perpendicular-to-the-line Clubshaft conflict. I am always amused as I watch students trying to figure out how to 'untangle' the the two. Then finally, comes the dawn: They realize that they must move their Hands much more forward (so that the Taly and the Clubshaft are parallel). For the first time, they discover for themselves the proper Hands and Clubshaft Impact alignments.
Then, during the Stroke, they've got to maintain that relationship. For that to happen, the Hands cannot Quit (3-F-7-B); instead, they must keep moving throughout the Stroke. And that means the student must keep the Clubhead behind the Hands. Eureka!
In the initial training, I have students set up at Impact Fix -- there is no Taly / Clubshaft conflict there -- and execute the Basic Motion (12-5-1). This is consistent with Homer Kelley's advice to "Practice this [Major Basic Stroke] first at Impact Fix" (Magic of the Right Forearm / 7-3). We then expand that into Acquired Motion (12-5-2) and introduce Pivot Action to Power the Left Arm through.
When the Left Wrist is Bent ("Address Hands") the forward-leaning Taly ("Impact Hands") and perpendicular-to-the-line Clubshaft conflict. I am always amused as I watch students trying to figure out how to 'untangle' the the two. Then finally, comes the dawn: They realize that they must move their Hands much more forward (so that the Taly and the Clubshaft are parallel). For the first time, they discover for themselves the proper Hands and Clubshaft Impact alignments.
Then, during the Stroke, they've got to maintain that relationship. For that to happen, the Hands cannot Quit (3-F-7-B); instead, they must keep moving throughout the Stroke. And that means the student must keep the Clubhead behind the Hands. Eureka!
In the initial training, I have students set up at Impact Fix -- there is no Taly / Clubshaft conflict there -- and execute the Basic Motion (12-5-1). This is consistent with Homer Kelley's advice to "Practice this [Major Basic Stroke] first at Impact Fix" (Magic of the Right Forearm / 7-3). We then expand that into Acquired Motion (12-5-2) and introduce Pivot Action to Power the Left Arm through.
No problem addressed in Impact fix but at adjusted address it was awkward. I don't set up in impact fix except for chipping.
On the Taly site the inventor wore in it so the rod was more along the outer side of his forearm than over the back of the hand.
Learning Impact Alignments and the Major Basic Stroke
Originally Posted by 6bmike
No problem addressed in Impact fix but at adjusted address it was awkward. I don't set up in impact fix except for chipping.
Mike,
The straight line Taly shaft alignment (with its Forward Lean) should be awkward at Adjusted Address. Impact Hands (7-8 ) are not Address Hands (7-9).
Regarding Fix as an Address alignment, we were practicing a chipping stroke, were we not? And here, given the minimum Stroke constraints, the Impact Address (10-9-B) is a viable alternative to Standard Address (10-9-A), especially in light of Homer's advice to practice Basic Arm / Elbow Action from Fix (Major Basic Stroke / 7-3).
The particular emphasis of our Barclays clinics was Educated Hands and their Impact Alignments. In the short time available, students learned to set the Body and Hands in their Impact alignments and then swing the Arms and deliver the Hands (via the Pivot: "Mark time . . . Right, Left; Right, Left") through Impact. And here, the Taly was an invaluable aid.
The straight line Taly shaft alignment (with its Forward Lean) should be awkward at Adjusted Address. Impact Hands (7-8 ) are not Address Hands (7-9).
Regarding Fix as an Address alignment, we were practicing a chipping stroke, were we not? And here, given the minimum Stroke constraints, the Impact Address (10-9-B) is a viable alternative to Standard Address (10-9-A), especially in light of Homer's advice to practice Basic Arm / Elbow Action from Fix (Major Basic Stroke / 7-3).
The particular emphasis of our Barclays clinics was Educated Hands and their Impact Alignments. In the short time available, students learned to set the Body and Hands in their Impact alignments and then swing the Arms and deliver the Hands (via the Pivot: "Mark time . . . Right, Left; Right, Left") through Impact. And here, the Taly was an invaluable aid.
Yes, you are right Lynn, Impact alignments were the focus, but I didn't drill basic motion with the class - I only had a chance to "fool around' with it between classes and naturally wanted to test drive it in my full swing address position. It is a wonderful aid and should be basic gear in all tgm classes. It educates hands, even for those that think their hands are educated would benefit.
local Georgia dowel supplier Home depot suffered a major downturn in demand due the Taly Golf Training aid
Actually, sd, Home Depot cratered last year when I abandoned the now outdated dowel technology in favor of relective marker poles. Since Home Depot stores in Atlanta don't carry the particular model I favor -- they do in Virginia, Washington, DC, and New Jersey -- that business went to Lowes (which fact was immediately reflected in the market price of their shares).
Why did I make the switch? First of all, the product is nonbreakable and pointed and thus makes a good intermediate 'target' to insert a few yards down the target line as an aid for "taking dead aim" (or to start 'right of' or 'left of' when practicing fades and draws). Also, the pointed end makes it great for establishing the Plane Angle and forward leaning Clubshaft angle. It doesn't warp, so it makes for accurate Plane Line tracing -- works great with the Taly on the inside of the right forearm -- and identifying the Angle of Approach.
The recommended Yoda Starter Kit includes five markers in two different colors (to further differentiate Plane Line, Stance Line and Target Line). In Georgia, the markers sell for $1.99 apiece, so you can buy a complete set of five for $9.95. Caveat emptor: The price varies by region, so expect to pay up as you move north of the Mason-Dixon Line. I found that out the hard way last week in New Jersey as I loaded up for my Barclays Academy and was held hostage at $2.68 apiece! So, for the 25 markers I bought, I had to ante up an additional $17.25. Outrageous, I know, but in the end, well worth every penny.
Hybrid Mode
