LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Roll vs. Over-Roll Thread: Roll vs. Over-Roll View Single Post #8 05-01-2005, 09:53 AM EdZ Lynn Blake Certified Instructor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Linn, OR Posts: 1,645 Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket Originally Posted by EdZ Horizontal hinge puts the club in the classic 'toe up' position angled hinge puts the club in the 45 degrees position verticle hinge puts the club facing the ground So would you say anything rolled more than "toe up" is over-rolled? Thanks! Bucket In the follow through, post impact - a 'true' swingers move (using CF only) yes, that would be over roll - however - the sweetspot can stay on plane with the clubface facing down and that is really the key - the on plane sweet spot - assuming impact and separation conditions are met. Any additional 'on plane' rotation is extra insurance against compression leakage at the 'possible' expense of clubFACE control if the finish swivel is 'early'. __________________ "Support the On Plane Swinging Force in Balance" "we have no friends, we have no enemies, we have only teachers" Simplicity buffs, see 5-0, 1-L, 2-0 A and B 10-2-B, 4-D, 6B-1D, 6-B-3-0-1, 6-C-1, 6-E-2 EdZ View Public Profile Send a private message to EdZ Find all posts by EdZ