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Old 06-12-2005, 06:51 PM
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Do you think someone with putting problems like Tom Kite... is having difficulty due more to his Technique, or Age?
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Old 06-13-2005, 12:33 AM
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Head problems. Nerves. Yips...if you want to call it that.

Some of those putts he hit today were just horrid. Total brainfart is what I think...

He needs to go talk to Carey Mumford.
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Old 06-13-2005, 11:08 AM
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Funny thing. I'm reading Bob Rotellas "golf is not a game of perfect" at the moment. He's using Tom Kite as an examble quite alot.
I guess Tom was not putting out his mind yesterday
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Old 06-13-2005, 01:17 PM
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Funny thing. I'm reading Bob Rotellas "golf is not a game of perfect" at the moment. He's using Tom Kite as an examble quite alot.
I guess Tom was not putting out his mind yesterday
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Jerry Pate missed a few little putts a couple of weeks ago right at the end of the Senior P.G.A.. The announcers for TV seemed to think with him, the problem was probably due to age, or nerves.He evidently was putting well right up to the end, when the pressure got very great.

A similar thing seemed to occur with Mr. Kite on the last day of the tournament.

Orville Moody fixed this with the Long putter. Others, like Hale Irwin, don't seem to have any problem like this.

Does he have a better technique, better nerves, or both?
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:08 AM
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The greatest winning mind in the world without the proper techniques is in trouble. "I think I can, I think I can..." belongs in my son's choo-choo train book. Take a look at what Hogan said:

"Frequently, you know, what looks like a fairly good golf swing falls apart in competition. Sometimes this is due to the player's temperament-not everyone is built for tournament golf. Much more often the harsh light of competition reveals that a swing is only superficially correct and cannot be schooled for competition because it really isn't correct." Ben Hogan, Five lessons-The modern fundamentals of golf.

The answer lies first in the race car's engine and then in the driver himself.
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Old 06-20-2005, 09:47 AM
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The greatest winning mind in the world without the proper techniques is in trouble. "I think I can, I think I can..." belongs in my son's choo-choo train book. Take a look at what Hogan said:

"Frequently, you know, what looks like a fairly good golf swing falls apart in competition. Sometimes this is due to the player's temperament-not everyone is built for tournament golf. Much more often the harsh light of competition reveals that a swing is only superficially correct and cannot be schooled for competition because it really isn't correct." Ben Hogan, Five lessons-The modern fundamentals of golf.

The answer lies first in the race car's engine and then in the driver himself.
What I saw of Kite's putting was serious throw away (left wrist breakdown) on his PUTTS.

He was setup with what should have been a shoulders only powered stroke, but was using his hands and arms - hence the breakdown in the left wrist.

The imperatives and essentials apply to putts just as much as to drives.

Nice quote VJ
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Old 06-21-2005, 03:21 PM
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His stroke looked really, really nasty that day, and that's being polite. It seemed like his takeaway was right, but his first move towards the ball was raising the putterhead higher off the gorund. Then he let the head get in front of the handle -- way ahead, adding loft.

I haven't seen anything that nasty looking on tour before Kite on that one particular day. I guess it goes to show you that even great putters can have days where it just ain't right.
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Old 06-21-2005, 08:10 PM
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This thread reminds me of the final round of the recent US Open. Early in the round most of the players appeared to not accelerate the putter through impact. I've seen it so often lately - also from winners - that I was starting to believe this was the only way on such lightnening fast greens.

There was one exeption though - Michael Campbell was putting with a smooth and determent acceleration all day long.

Last saturday I was in a flight with a gentleman with putting yips. I have never seen it so clearly before. His right hand had spasms right before impact. I don't think he holed anything in the region 2-5 feet all the round. It was hartbreaking to watch. I really felt sorry for the guy.

He did sink a long one though. The yips only occured on short putts.


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Old 06-21-2005, 08:45 PM
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Dottie Pepper had an observation I found interesting. Agressive putters such as Tiger would have a hard time on the greens. The said something to the effect that they often play to go some 2-3 feet past the hole. Since that was essentially bad idea on Pinehurst, they had to organize their putting differently and were struggling.

The is some logic to that. Comments?
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:01 AM
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One thing I remember Stan Utley saying he believed in... "Be process oriented, rather than target oriented." He seemed to believe that if you concentrated on good mechanics, the result would take care of itself.

This is a little different than what we usually hear from the psychologists. This could be an approach worth trying if one is not having success with what one is doing now. It could free up the mind in a different way.
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