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jim_0068 09-20-2005 01:01 PM
Need some help with keeping my right shoulder on plane
 
Well i took some video of myself the other day and was pleasantly surprised. Lots of times your swing looks better in your head than it does on video, well it was pretty close to what i envisioned in my head which was nice :)

However i found out why my divots tend to point a little left. Conventional wisdom would tell you i have a bent plane line and am coming over the top. Nope.

What's happening is that during impact, instead of the right should continuing to go DOWNPLANE it starts to head left much too soon. This all makes sense because my divots start to point right (you can actually see it in the grass) but then they curve left pretty quick.

I also have a feeling this is why i fade the ball so easy as well.

What are some drills that i can do to get rid of this?

Thanks

Jim

jim_0068 09-20-2005 01:08 PM
Also, the problem isn't as bad as long as i make a big shoulder turn ala swinging style.

My driver has been treating me well lately and i use a swinging procedure. I use more of a hitting procedure with my irons (mid/short).

12 piece bucket 09-20-2005 09:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwh
It's a guess without seeing the swing, but the problem may be conceptual. If you see the ground directly underneath the ball as the bottom of the circle, then you visualize the ball as leaving the clubface on a tangent and the club starts to move inward. However, if you view the ball leaving the clubface as a chord (within the circle) -- which is what it is supposed to do -- then you can more easily visualize how the clubhead must continue to swing down and out along the circumference to the bottom of the circle.

Actually "see" that circle continuing beyond the ball, down and out into the ground. It helped me; maybe it will help you, too.
I love this advice! Hard to beat Plane Geometry and Alignment G.O.L.F. Very nice post!

Yoda 09-20-2005 09:22 PM
One Powerful Pilgrim
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwh
It's a guess without seeing the swing, but the problem may be conceptual. If you see the ground directly underneath the ball as the bottom of the circle, then you visualize the ball as leaving the clubface on a tangent and the club starts to move inward. However, if you view the ball leaving the clubface as a chord (within the circle) -- which is what it is supposed to do -- then you can more easily visualize how the clubhead must continue to swing down and out along the circumference to the bottom of the circle.

Actually "see" that circle continuing beyond the ball, down and out into the ground. It helped me; maybe it will help you, too.
What a great post, Bob.

You have come so far in only 18 months.

I am very proud of your progress...

And happy to be your teacher and friend.

jim_0068 09-20-2005 10:04 PM
unfortunately it isn't a conceptual thing...

any actual drills?

12 piece bucket 09-20-2005 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jim_0068
unfortunately it isn't a conceptual thing...

any actual drills?
What is your head doing?

jim_0068 09-20-2005 11:32 PM
it's pretty steady...moves a little back in the backswing and a little foward in the downswing.

mb6606 09-21-2005 12:34 PM
Put a head cover an inch or two left and forward of the ball.
Make swings without hitting the head cover. You may be suprised how far right you must swing to stay on plane.

BTW - I found/find that the flat left wrist and the precise right forearm angle of approach are challenging indeed.


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