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Old 09-13-2005, 09:31 AM
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Advice regarding my stroke pattern
What do ya'll think about my stroke pattern...What would you like to see change, to match up components?

My Stroke Pattern:
Grip-Basic - Overlap
Grip-Type - Strong Single
Stroke - Basic - Pitch
Stroke Variation - 4 Barrel
Plane line- Cl-Cl - 2"
Plane Angle - Basic - Turned Shoulder
Plane Angle Variation - Single Shift
Fix - N/A
Address - Standard
Hinge Action - Dual Horizonal
Pressure Point combination - 4 Point
Pivot - Standard
Shoulder Turn - Rotated
Hip Turn - Shiftless
Hip Action - Delayed
Knee Action - Standard
Foot Action -Flat Left
Wrist Action - Standard
Lag Loading - Drag
Trigger - Shoulder/Right Arm/Wrist throw Combination
Assembly Point - Top
Loading Action - Snap
Delivery Path - Circle
Release - Snap

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Old 09-13-2005, 11:53 AM
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Hip Turn: instead of using Shiftless (10-14-C), I would strongly recommend you use Slide (10-14-B). In fact, you probably already do!

Delivery Path: instead of using Circle (10-23-E), I would strongly recommend you use a Straight Line Path. In fact, you probably already do!

You might want to try move your Assembly Point to the End (10-21-C) rather than Top. It's easier to Drag Load and club, and accelerate the club longitudinally that way, which is what you want if you're a Swinger. Even if you go a little above the 'hands at right shoulder high' position at the Top of your backstroke, you'll be at the End. So from my experience, you may already be assembling at the End anyway.

Edit: Also try having a Standard (10-13-A) Shoulder Turn. That's a Flat backstroke and On Plane downstroke Shoulder Turn.

I'd love to hear what others think.
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Old 09-13-2005, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by precisionscott
What do ya'll think about my stroke pattern...What would you like to see change, to match up components?

My Stroke Pattern:
Grip-Basic - Overlap
Grip-Type - Strong Single
Stroke - Basic - Pitch
Stroke Variation - 4 Barrel
Plane line- Cl-Cl - 2"
Plane Angle - Basic - Turned Shoulder
Plane Angle Variation - Single Shift
Fix - N/A
Address - Standard
Hinge Action - Dual Horizonal
Pressure Point combination - 4 Point
Pivot - Standard
Shoulder Turn - Rotated
Hip Turn - Shiftless

Hip Action - Delayed
Knee Action - Standard
Foot Action -Flat Left
Wrist Action - Standard
Lag Loading - Drag
Trigger - Shoulder/Right Arm/Wrist throw Combination
Assembly Point - Top
Loading Action - Snap
Delivery Path - Circle
Release - Snap
Precisionscott,

This is a Swinging Pattern for Maximum Power.

With that assumption, I have bolded and enlarged (in your Quote above) the Incompatible Components.

Basically, the problem areas are:

1. The Right Arm is passive (as a Power Source) in Swinging, not active. Therefore, there are only three Accumulators, three Pressure Points and no Right Arm Release Trigger.

2. The Standard Pivot Stroke demands a Weight Shift (Hip Shift and consequent Shoulder Turn Axis Tilt), and this is incompatible with the Rotated Shoulder Turn, Shiftless Hip Turn and, usually, Circle Path Delivery. In fact, I doubt very much if you are actually using the latter Components.

Bottom line, I would recommend the following adjustments to the stated Pattern:

1. Triple Barrel Stroke.

2. Standard Shoulder Turn.

3. Either Standard or Slide Hip Turn.

4. Straight Line Delivery Path.

5. Left Wrist Throw in combination with either the Shoulder Turn Throw or Delivery Path Throw or both, but not the Right Arm Throw.
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Old 09-15-2005, 09:41 AM
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Shiftless Backstroke only?...like Mr. O'Grady



Standard...Mr. Clampett



Slide....Mr. Monty




13-0 "A Straight Line Power Package Delivery is not possible with the Shiftless Hip Turn"

- Gospel According to Homer

Then... that leaves only Circle, Angled, Top Arc Angled Line left available!!!

because Straight line is 'Non-Interchangeable" ...does that mean the Top Arc -Straight Line with a Single shift too?

Precicion scott...Yoda got you.. if he "assummed" a downstroke shiftless hip turn....

You see the MORAD pivot which Mr. O'Grady is demonstrating in picture numero uno is a shiftless backstroke, but a 4-6"slide hip turn downstroke for axis tilt!...NOT a PURE shiftless hip turn...in BOTH directions!

10-13-C-Rotated Shoulder Turn

The rotated Shoulder turn moves the Shoulder in a "normal" path at right angles to the spine. The rotated Backstroke Shoulder Turn "can" locate a Turned Shoulder Plane Angle. The Downstroke Turn may shift to On Plane for whatever Plane Angle or Variation is used. Or it may continue in its "Rotated" pattern simply as transportation fpr the power package, as in -B above. Of Course, if the WAIST BEND is exactly right, a Rotated Shoulder Turn may also be "On Plane" - in Both diretions--a simplified equivilent to 10-13-A

10-14-C - Shiftless Hip Turn

The "Shiftless Hip Turn" is a free turn in BOTH DIRECTIONS but with no weight shift in EITHER DIRECTION. It tend toward a "soft" stroke with an emphasis on accuracy. it can produce an ON PLANE DOWNSTROKE SHOULDER TURN ONLY...ONLY ....ONLY with the Rotated Shoulder Turn(10-13-C) AND...ONLY....ONLY the PITCH Basic Stroke is available to CARRY the right elbow INTO...INTO..INTO release Positon for a TRIGGER DELAY Control Procedure....

Now...What is your backstroke Hip Turn?....What is your downstroke hip turn?


What is ...getting"The WAIST BEND" exactly right mean?....

How much WAIST BEND is right for this procedure?

What kind of delivery path "carries the right elbow INTO the release position for trigger delay control Procedure?

Sorry for the studdering problem...Into...Into...

But there are many stroke patterns that are yet to be discovered other than the "recommended" two in Chapter 12...

and yes that would be ideal...

BUT ...

"We like only what we're trained to see...everything else is ugly..." - Greg McHatton

So True...Oh So True!!!!
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Old 09-15-2005, 11:01 PM
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Annikan,

You make very valid points.

You are very correct in asking me what my backstroke hip turn and downstroke hip turn is.. My backstroke hip turn is shiftless and my downstroke hip turn is standard.

Little by little, I am learning so have patience with me.
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