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Old 01-24-2006, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by comdpa

Think of the golf swing again as a car. The pivot is the engine of the car, and the hands utilise the steering mechanism to guide the car which is powered by the engine.

The question I would like to pose here and - I have asked this before; would it not be infinitely easier to drive a car that has an engine in good condition?
Yes.

Per 6-G: Educated Hands can compensate for Off Line Hip and Shoulder Motion but only up to a point.

As an aside...

When you're about to crash would you rather have your feet on the gas pedal or your hands on the steering wheel?
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Slinger,

In issuing the Chop Down . . . are you basically just taking a Turned Left Hand downplane as if there were no release?

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Old 01-25-2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
Be careful about exaggerating the Pitch as shown in 10-3-B. Too many people try to 'tuck the elbow' and get into accumulator lag, where the right arm never straightens. Trust me; I've been there.

I'll give you a little drill to support the proper positioning for the use of a Snap Release. Place your left hand in front of your body and place it palm to plane (as in a start-up swivel). A start-up swivel is preparation for the use of a release swivel. "As it goes up, so it tends to come down."

With your left hand palm to plane, place your right forearm flying wedge under and against the left. When you're palm to palm, notice the position of the right elbow. You are in Pitch. Instead of trying to change the elbow, try to keep your left hand palm to plane longer. In fact, take the 'karate chop' past your line of sight to the ball. It's a maximum trigger delay.

P.S. Don't tell anybody I talked about swinging. I'll be ostracized from the hitters emergency room.
This is how you get out of "perverted pitch"....outstanding Ted....Notice how the elbow has a relationship to the behavior of the #3 Accumulator...Therefore one can conclude that one's wrist action, hinge action, arm motiona and elbow location...although seperate to themselves have to be coordinated....Children need to learn to play together.....
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:35 PM
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perverted pitch
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This is how you get out of "perverted pitch"
I love that phrase...I'm going to keep that and use it.

Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
although seperate to themselves have to be coordinated....Children need to learn to play together....
Can't we all just get along?
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The red-headed stepchild who doesn't like to play along..the right arm swing per 10-3-K with loosened wrists...ooops.....Sorry Richard....you know I love you man.....Here we go again....
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:12 PM
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The Hitter's Right Elbow During Release
Originally Posted by YodasLuke

With your left hand palm to plane, place your right forearm flying wedge under and against the left. When you're palm to palm, notice the position of the right elbow. You are in Pitch.
For the Hitter's application, start from the Swinger's position Luke has described above. Now, Roll the Left Wrist slightly (to the left toward the vertical). Allow the Right Forearm Flying Wedge to likewise Roll. Now observe the position of the Right Elbow. You are in Punch.
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
For the Hitter's application, start from the Swinger's position Luke has described above. Now, Roll the Left Wrist slightly (to the left toward the vertical). Allow the Right Forearm Flying Wedge to likewise Roll. Now observe the position of the Right Elbow. You are in Punch.
In other words, Single Wrist Action will naturally bring your Elbow to a Punch position, while Standard Wrist Action will naturally bring it to a Pitch position.

Another reason for the Swinger to Start Up Swivel.
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Wrist Action and Elbow Position
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...Single Wrist Action will naturally bring your Elbow to a Punch position, while Standard Wrist Action will naturally bring it to a Pitch position.
Yes, and this is one of the very few times I would recommend usng a given photo to reference a component other than that being illustrated (2-R).

Compare the Elbow postion in Photo 10-18-A (Standard Wrist Action) and the Elbow Position in 10-18-C (Single Wrist Action). [IMPORTANT: You must use Photo 10-18-D for 10-18-C because the photos are transposed.] The Turned Left Wrist of Standard Action has enabled the Elbow to 'lead' deeper into Release Interval (Pitch Basic Stroke) than the Vertical Left Wrist of Single Wrist Action (Punch Basic Stroke).

The untrained eye may not at first be able to detect an appreciable difference betweeen the two. But it is there. To help see it, check out the space between the Forearms in the Single Wrist Action photo as the Right Forearm supports the back-of-the-Shaft Loading (instead of Standard Wrist Action's top-of-the-Shaft Loading.
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Old 01-26-2006, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
The Turned Left Wrist of Standard Action has enabled the Elbow to 'lead' deeper into Release Interval (Pitch Basic Stroke) than the Vertical Left Wrist of Single Wrist Action (Punch Basic Stroke).
Since the Pitch Stroke is conducive to greater Trigger Delay, we observe Swingers having more of a "true" Snap Release than Hitters.

And everything else being equal, that means greater Clubhead Speed.

Another point for the Swinger on my Swinger/Hitter Scorecard.

PS: I've nothing against Hitting.
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Originally Posted by Yoda
For the Hitter's application, start from the Swinger's position Luke has described above. Now, Roll the Left Wrist slightly (to the left toward the vertical). Allow the Right Forearm Flying Wedge to likewise Roll. Now observe the position of the Right Elbow. You are in Punch.
Are these same "procedures" applicable to one that has a different grip type than the preferred 10-2-B?
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