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Old 05-06-2006, 10:07 PM
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I first really felt pp4 when I started to mess around with extensor action. You have to have a really solid structure of your left arm and clubshaft for your pivot to be able to throw the entire primary lever assembly (left arm and clubshaft) into impact.. An analogy for extensor action would be pulling the needle(club) so that the thread (left arm) becomes tight - At the top of the backstroke you want your pivot to drive against a really tight rope - you can't do it with a loose one. The left arm or rope is moved by the pivot it does not move by itself....
Mathew,

This is a hell of a post. I have never considered Extensor Action in this light. "You want your pivot to drive against a tight rope." That is super. I always wondered if Extensor Action was less critical to the Swingers Motion. But this post should be in the archives for Swingers.

How strong are you "tugging?" Do you have an analogy as to the level of "effort" in your extensor action?

Great post man!

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Old 05-06-2006, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Mathew,

This is a hell of a post. I have never considered Extensor Action in this light. "You want your pivot to drive against a tight rope." That is super. I always wondered if Extensor Action was less critical to the Swingers Motion. But this post should be in the archives for Swingers.

How strong are you "tugging?" Do you have an analogy as to the level of "effort" in your extensor action?

Great post man!

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I personally can't apply too much extensor action if done correctly. The lever assembly is always driven by applying pressure against it and in the swingers procedure this is the pivot applying pressure where the left arm is against the chest. If the left arm is not being pulled aggressively with extensor action, the pivot has a floppy and weak left arm structure to drive into impact.
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I personally can't apply too much extensor action if done correctly. The lever assembly is always driven by applying pressure against it and in the swingers procedure this is the pivot applying pressure where the left arm is against the chest. If the left arm is not being pulled aggressively with extensor action, the pivot has a floppy and weak left arm structure to drive into impact.
Me likey. So in essence you have "pre-loaded" pp4 via Extensor Action prior to the load imparted by the Pivot?
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Me likey. So in essence you have "pre-loaded" pp4 via Extensor Action prior to the load imparted by the Pivot?
Hmmm... not sure exactly what your meaning

PP4 is loaded on the backstroke and your left arm contacts the chest at the top. Once your at the top of the backstroke you feel this pressure and you concentrate on increasing the pressure (don't think about directions - just the pressure) as much as possible all the while maintaining a stationary head - releasing no.4.

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Old 05-06-2006, 11:19 PM
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Mathew,

When do you feel the pressure is released? When do you feel the arm is completely off the chest?

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Old 05-06-2006, 11:27 PM
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When do you feel the pressure is released? When do you feel the arm is completely off the chest?

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Its hard to say an exact point, I know for sure its definately off the chest at the followthrough - both arms straight.
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That's as specific as I was looking for, thank you!

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Old 05-07-2006, 12:04 AM
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Also I just want to add a few things since we're on topic. As pp3 is aggresively applying extensor action (you really feel pp3) that pressure is also onplane. When you look at 1-L and the hinge, notice that the secondary hinge in the dual horizontal hinge action, that lifts the left arm up and down which actually is what the magic of the right forearm is all about - any bending of the right arm with extensor action will lift the left arm in a circular motion around its pin. In the dual horizontal hinge the left arm is lifted till the top of the backstroke, goes back down till low point and then lifts again till the finish of the stroke. The constant 'onplane' pressure of pp3 towards the plane line as pp4 drives the lever assembly is what drops the left arm onto the ball...

Because the stretch is also onplane as pp4 pressure is created against the lever assembly, and the fact pp3 is also on the plane and your pp3 won't be offplane (I hope), as the pressure of pp4 works against the onplane pressure of pp3, this tilts the spine and drops the right shoulder axis tilt until pp3 can trace down the plane line.

Also the pressure of pp3 towards the plane line is what keeps the level condition of the right wrist....

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Mathew,

When do you feel the pressure is released? When do you feel the arm is completely off the chest?

Matt
The #4 Pressure Point -- where the Left Arm contacts the side of the chest -- is the first stage of the Swinger's Three Stage Rocket. It is the Pivot (specifically the Right Shoulder Turn Thrust) driving the Left Arm and Club during the Start Down and Downstroke. That Pressure rapidly subsides as Stage Two (the Left Wrist Uncock) and Stage Three (the Left Hand Roll) take over and complete the Release Sequence.

The point here is that the Right Shoulder does not (normally) drive the Lever Assembly through Impact. It is just too slow, and the Hand Action Accumulators (Uncock and Roll) are much more efficient. Continuous Shoulder Turn Pressure is an action that, according to Homer Kelley, "might be useFul for a plowhorse", but it is not the ideal for a golfer.
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Originally Posted by Yoda
The #4 Pressure Point -- where the Left Arm contacts the side of the chest -- is the first stage of the Swinger's Three Stage Rocket. It is the Pivot (specifically the Right Shoulder Turn Thrust) driving the Left Arm and Club during the Start Down and Downstroke. That Pressure rapidly subsides as Stage Two (the Left Wrist Uncock) and Stage Three (the Left Hand Roll) take over and complete the Release Sequence.

The point here is that the Right Shoulder does not (normally) drive the Lever Assembly through Impact. It is just too slow, and the Hand Action Accumulators (Uncock and Roll) are much more efficient. Continuous Shoulder Turn Pressure is an action that, according to Homer Kelley, "might be useFul for a plowhorse", but it is not the ideal for a golfer.
Green-genes . . . Great post. Fog lifting on #4 PP for me. Could we go a bit deeper here?

What Pressure Points are you aware of in regards to the strongest sensation in your Swinging Motion?

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