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Old 06-02-2006, 09:41 AM
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Trigger Types and Trigger Delay
I find Triggering and Trigger Delay very fascinating..I would like to start a discussion on how the Triggers are employed..then move on to Trigger Delay and then undoing Trigger Delay....


TRIGGER TYPES

THE THROW

10-20-0 GENERAL Five basic procedures are listed for Triggering the Release of the Power Package. Unlisted procedures adopted by players should be noted under “X” classification for Stroke Pattern selections. The five basic procedures are listed in approximately the same order as the Power Package Releases (11-24) to keep these closely related categories parallel. Variations MUST comply with 4-D-0. Study 6-B-0.

10-20-A THE HAND THROW The Hands swing the Club right from The Top. Very hazardous except for well Educated Hands. Accumulator Release is very gradual so they won’t all become empty at – or before – Impact. This classification includes any “Hands Only” Putting Strokes, such as 10-3-E.
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10-20-B THE RIGHT ARM THROW The Right Arm (6-B-1) simply pushes the Lever Assemblies (6-A) toward Impact with either early or late Release. Usually restricted to Hitting (10-19-A).

10-20-C SHOULDER TURN THROW Sharp initial acceleration of the Shoulder Turn against the #4 Pressure Point Loading motion of the Left Arm (10-11) Automatically throws the Left Arm off the chest when the Pivot acceleration subsides per 10-19-C. See 2-M-4.


THE THROW

10-20-D DELIVERY PATH THROW Wherever the bottom arc of the Delivery Line begins (10-23) – a long arc or short (7-23) – it triggers this Throw automatically. Usually used in combination with 10-20-B for Hitting or with 10-20-C for Swinging.

By deliberately Triggering the Release before the end of the Delivery Path Line, a Non-Automatic version can be produced. This will normally require an adjustment of the Aiming Point also.

10-20-E WRIST THROW Here, the Right Hand remains palm-up to the Plane during the Uncocking of the Left Wrist to produce a Sequenced Release per 2-G and 4-D-0. Especially compatible with Swinging. See 6-H-0-F.

By deliberately initiating the Wrist Roll at any point before reaching the end of the Delivery Path Line, the Non-Automatic version can be produced.



TRIGGER DELAY
I am going to list the Trigger Delay in the release sequence order of #4,#1,#2,#3 for bettter clarity...

#4:6-B-4-C MAXIMUM TRIGGER DELAY is achieved by using either the Standard or Delayed Pivot (to increase the Lag of the Downstroke Shoulder Turn) with a Snap Loading Action (per 7-19-3 and 10-22-C) followed by a Snap Release (10-24-E) with a Pitch Basic Stroke (10-3-B). For Hitters the essential difference is that Loading is per 7-19-1.



#1:6-B-1-C MAXIMUM TRIGGER DELAY is gained by causing the Right Elbow to “Pass the Ball’ – which is the Line-of-Sight-to-the-Ball- before Release. Study 2-N, 3-F-7, 7-8 and 10-14.

#2:6-B-2-C MAXIMUM TRIGGER DELAY is achieved by using an Automatic Snap or Flip Release (10-24-3 or –F).

#3:6-B-3-C MAXIMUM TRIGGER DELAY for Swingers is the use of Trigger Types 10-20-D or 10-20-E for a truly Automatic Snap Release (10-24-E). But the Hitter uses the Right Arm Throw 10-20-B per 6-B-3-A above. And study 7-20 in this connection.

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Old 06-02-2006, 10:03 AM
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I think the connection in regards to Triggering, Trigger Delay, the Throws is the Endless Belt, its pully size and how it is set up.

I'll try to connect the dots. In the 7th there is an expanded theme of Endless Belt. I think it is hugely misunderstood and overlooked concept of Mr. K's genius.

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No takers?...

I'll give it a shot in laymans terms...


In reverse...

To delay #3...Come in Hong Kong Phooey until Line of Sight

To delay #2...Use an Automatic Release Type and a late release point

To delay #1 Keep the right elbow bent until Line of Sight of the Ball

To delay #4 Need to increase my Jimmy McLean "X Factor"..LOL

So if I do all 4 does this mean I'm Maximum Trigger Happy?

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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
No takers?...

I'll give it a shot in laymans terms...


In reverse...

To delay #3...Come in Hong Kong Phooey until Line of Sight

To delay #2...Use an Automatic Release Type and a late release point

To delay #1 Keep the right elbow bent until Line of Sight of the Ball

To delay #4 Need to increase my Jimmy McLean "X Factor"..LOL

So if I do all 4 does this mean I'm Maximum Trigger Happy?

If you had to pick the top 2 to delay . . . which ones would you delay?
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
I think the connection in regards to Triggering, Trigger Delay, the Throws is the Endless Belt, its pully size and how it is set up.

A nice summary - the endless belt and where the belt points (aiming point), the size of the pully too, are the key variables IMO.

To Lagster's question I'll add - where are the two 'centers' of the pullys? How does that relate to your center of balance? Does that change if you change where the belt points? (aiming point)

The changes to 2-K are an interesting way to shift the original perspectives on the left shoulder center IMO.
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Originally Posted by EdZ
A nice summary - the endless belt and where the belt points (aiming point), the size of the pully too, are the key variables IMO.

To Lagster's question I'll add - where are the two 'centers' of the pullys? How does that relate to your center of balance? Does that change if you change where the belt points? (aiming point)

The changes to 2-K are an interesting way to shift the original perspectives on the left shoulder center IMO.
I posted this in an earlier thread and it may have more relevance here. . . .

http://theserver.theschool.columbia....s_pulleys.html

Check this out for more on Pulley stuff.
5. Decreasing Pulley Speed

Main Idea: If you use a small pulley wheel to drive a large pulley wheel, the large one will turn slower.

Additional Information: With this model, we have a pulley with a small driver wheel and a large follower wheel. It's really hard to make a wheel like the big one turn - it would take a lot of force. But with a smaller wheel, we can use a process called gearing down to help. Gearing down decreases speed but increases force. Since it's easy to turn a small wheel at a fast speed, we use it to move the large one. A small driver wheel makes a large follower wheel turn more slowly. Since this is a pulley model, both wheels turn in the same direction
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8. Gearing Up

Main Idea: If you use a large gear to drive a small gear, the small one will turn faster.

Additional Information: Here we see a large driver gear and a small follower. We can move the small gear pretty fast on our own, but we can use a process called gearing up to move it even faster. Gearing up increases speed, but decreases force. A good example of a gearing-up system in real life is a 10-speed bike - when you shift into 10th gear, you turn a large gear with the pedals, which drives a small gear attached to the rear wheel. For this model, one turn of the 24-tooth driver produce three turns of the 8-tooth follower. This ratio of 1:3 is called the gearing up ratio


10. Increasing Pulley Speed

Main Idea: If you use a large pulley wheel to drive a small pulley wheel, the small one will turn faster.

Additional Information: In this pulley model we have a large driver wheel and a small follower. We can move the small wheel pretty fast on our own, but these pulleys use a process called gearing up to move it even faster. Gearing up increases speed, but decreases force. A large driver wheel makes a small follower wheel turn faster. However, unlike gears, in this pulley model both wheels turn in the same direction.



This was built with Lego's. I reckon you could raid junior's box and build you some different pulleys to see what happens. Also . . . if the belt is crossed up. The wheels move in opposite directions.
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A breakthrough is near.....What affects the Pully Diameter....Left Wrist Cock and Right Elbow location????
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
A breakthrough is near.....What affects the Pully Diameter....Left Wrist Cock and Right Elbow location????
Is it not also due to the natural length of the players left arm ?

If you lose the extensor action and allow the left arm to bend more, is it possible to have even smaller pulley ?
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
A breakthrough is near.....What affects the Pully Diameter....Left Wrist Cock and Right Elbow location????
How about axis tilt and the right shoulder moving down plane?
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annikan skywalker ....... I find Triggering and Trigger Delay very fascinating..I would like to start a discussion on how the Triggers are employed..then move on to Trigger Delay and then undoing Trigger Delay....

Again, I'm confused. Are you asking which Triggers each of us use? Combination 10-20-C then 10-20-E (on my best day ).

By the way; great right forearm flying wedge. Who's pic?

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