elbow position

[Bigwill]

Which position makes it easier to achieve a deep-into-the-downswing pitch elbow position:

1. Trail elbow close to the body at the top of the backswing

or

2. Trail elbow farther away from the body at the top of the backswing

and why?

[Yoda]

Which position makes it easier to achieve a deep-into-the-downswing pitch elbow position:

1. Trail elbow close to the body at the top of the backswing

or

2. Trail elbow farther away from the body at the top of the backswing

and why?

The correct Power Package alignments (6-B-3-0-1) and Extensor Action (6-B-1-D) will take care of the Right Elbow at the Top. The use of the Wrist Throw Trigger (10-20-E) with the Right Hand held 'palm up' to the Plane in an Auto Snap Release is the best way to go about achieving a true Pitch Basic Stroke (Elbow 'down and in the front' / 10-3-B).

Hitters with the Left and Right Wrists Vertical to the Plane (not Turned) during the Release Interval will find the Elbow in Punch Basic alignment ('down and at the side' / 10-3-A).

[nuke99]

also.. how far the elbow highly depends on the plane . the more upright the plane the more the elbow will need "fly" on the top.

but this is relative to how your body setup.. the more bent over, the more your elbow will need to stay close to the body .

so the Plane is the boss.

and I think... if i am not wrong.. Elbow plane is the best for what you are asking for.

[12 piece bucket]

also.. how far the elbow highly depends on the plane . the more upright the plane the more the elbow will need "fly" on the top.

but this is relative to how your body setup.. the more bent over, the more your elbow will need to stay close to the body .

so the Plane is the boss.

and I think... if i am not wrong.. Elbow plane is the best for what you are asking for.

Right . . . The right palm supports the plane at the top kinda . . . so depending on the plane angle the position of the elbow will differ. See Hogan vs. Nicklaus.

Lynn aka Collard Greens aka Mr. Green Jeans aka Yoda aka SoonToBeMakingPlayersFamousandRich Blake points out above that the Right Hand palm up karate chop position will take care of your pitch elbow. But an even more subtle point to his advice above is the Left Wrist Throw. Your Left Wrist THROWS THE CLUB OUT while still TURNED TO THE PLANE. It is a perndicular action assuring RHYTHM. If you are throwing the club out on plane you will have NO INCLINATION TO BEND THE LEFT WRIST.

This was one of the things that set me back about 5 years with regards to pitch elbow and the karate chop. The flat left wrist IS NOT a static position . . . its basis is in the FLAIL and it is thus DYNAMIC in its action. . . you DO NOT cock it and HOLD IT COCKED AS LONG AS YOU CAN. You turn your left hand to the plane and SLING SLING SLING IT DOWNPLANE DOWNPLAN DOWNPLANE.

[Bagger Lance]

This was one of the things that set me back about 5 years with regards to pitch elbow and the karate chop. The flat left wrist IS NOT a static position . . . its basis is in the FLAIL and it is thus DYNAMIC in its action. . . you DO NOT cock it and HOLD IT COCKED AS LONG AS YOU CAN. You turn your left hand to the plane and SLING SLING SLING IT DOWNPLANE DOWNPLAN DOWNPLANE.

The coolest thing that I got after a few years was that even though the left wrist is uncocking on plane, the right wrist doesn't uncock. It stays in it's bent/level condition as the right forearm rolls with the uncocking left wrist. In swinging, the right forearm rolls under on the downswing (with the uncocking left wrist), and over through release (with the left wrist hinge action) with the right wrist in a frozen condition throughout. The bones in the forearm allow this motion without moving the right elbow or frozen wrist condition.

The flying wedges are amazing.

I had to buy a Gary Wiren right wrist brace to figure that one out.

[6bmike]

The flying wedges are amazing.

Understanding the Flying Wedges is like having a TGM for Dummies book.

It's ALL in THERE.

[KnighT]

6BMike, Bucket, Bagger, nuke, and of course Yoda.....you guys are good

There is alot of G.O.L.F there. Great posts.

[12 piece bucket]

The coolest thing that I got after a few years was that even though the left wrist is uncocking on plane, the right wrist doesn't uncock. It stays in it's bent/level condition as the right forearm rolls with the uncocking left wrist. In swinging, the right forearm rolls under on the downswing (with the uncocking left wrist), and over through release (with the left wrist hinge action) with the right wrist in a frozen condition throughout. The bones in the forearm allow this motion without moving the right elbow or frozen wrist condition.

The flying wedges are amazing.

I had to buy a Gary Wiren right wrist brace to figure that one out.

You is right . . . and the Right Elbow gets SLUNG out too . . . accumulator release sequence always 4,1,2,3 . . . . It's important to be well SLUNG.