Left arm only

[12 piece bucket]

looks like the meds are wearing off...




but it sounds like a good drill... thanks

Naw . . . I think Mike O slipped me a roofie .

Yeah that drill is AWESOME . . . I have seen Yoda do it. He actually demos it on the Address series on the inclined plane. But you can really get the feel by moving back and forth between the inclined and vertical planes.

If you throw it out according to Mr. Kelley you have no impetus to flip whatsoever. Throw it out and roll it through.

[golfbulldog]

If you throw it out according to Mr. Kelley you have no impetus to flip whatsoever. Throw it out and roll it through.

This has the sound of a very great truth about it...even experimenting in the house it seems that throwing the left wrist causes forces to act solely in the plane of the wristcock...you just couldn't bend the left wrist even if you wanted to !

I guess it ties in with the "prepare to roll on the plane" stuff too... because once you have thrown that left wrist uncock you have to trust that forearm rotation...it happens so fast !

I look forward to seeing what everyone else has to say about it.

[12 piece bucket]

This has the sound of a very great truth about it...even experimenting in the house it seems that throwing the left wrist causes forces to act solely in the plane of the wristcock...you just couldn't bend the left wrist even if you wanted to !

I guess it ties in with the "prepare to roll on the plane" stuff too... because once you have thrown that left wrist uncock you have to trust that forearm rotation...it happens so fast !

I look forward to seeing what everyone else has to say about it.

One cool thing to try may be to. . .

Just throw it down behind the ball and gradually inch the contact point closer and closer until you actuall strike the ball then the turf and see what happens.

I have been fortunate enough to see Preachapokechop demo this . . . it's cool. I think the vertical hammering should give you a feel of what the #2 pressure point should be sensing. I used to try to feel like I was just holding the left wrist flat and feel it via #2. That ain't it.

If you do that hammering thing and really focus on the #2 pressure point and NOT the CLUBHEAD . . . you feel it load . . . I have come to believe that the Flat Left Wrist is more about DYNAMIC PROPER MOTION than just holding the freakin' thing flat.

Again Homer said if you THROW OUT you will not BEND. And I don't think this leads to any kind of circle path either. Experiment with this hammering deal. Do it via the left triceps ala a Non-Automatic release. Then hammer vertically by trying to drag the heel of the hand down and let CF really throw it out. You can feel the Snap Release. It's just in a vertical plane.

I love this dealie. Probably not thing for Hitters but makes a lot of sense for the Swinger.

[golfbulldog]

I used to try to feel like I was just holding the left wrist flat and feel it via #2. That ain't it.

If you do that hammering thing and really focus on the #2 pressure point and NOT the CLUBHEAD . . . you feel it load . . . I have come to believe that the Flat Left Wrist is more about DYNAMIC PROPER MOTION than just holding the freakin' thing flat.
Again Homer said if you THROW OUT you will not BEND.

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I think that this is the truth - Flat left wrist is the goal but it occurs , like happiness, by doing something else... then suddenly you realise... WOW i'm happy / FLW

I think you are right - it is held flat by uncocking left wrist in line, which permits a sequenced release to lead into roll. The FLW results from these efforts not by being "held" flat by your conscious effort - FLW "occurs" by doing exactly what you say.

I have reviewed the Tomasello videos in gallery since you posted and he spends alot of time discussing throws..."down and out... not forward " etc... i don't want to get into left / right arm swing but he describes a throw on an inclined plane which results in FLW being maintained and a pivot that responds. Sounds pretty good


...just can't make it work for me though!

[Sonic_Doom]

Great discussion.

Its interesting to me cause I'm doing this with my dominant arm so it comes naturally to me and its easy to develop powerful motion.

One thing that really supercharges my computer when doing drills like these is a mental image/sensation (if you will) of drawing the middle knuckles (of my right-your left hand) along (parallel to) the plane line and then dragging them along the ground (perpedicular to the plane) from impact to follow through. My feeling is that the knuckles act as the clubs leading edge. Picture dragging all four second knuckles along the ground square to the inclined plane line.

I do this without a ball just taking divots and when I employ this thought while hittin balls, I get the sensation that absolutely no compression is lost here. It may produce that down out motion for me I cant get any other way cause when I do it right it feels like Im hitting a ball of lead.

[innercityteacher]

This topic brought to mind one of Lynn's videos:

Yesterday, I set-up at impact fix, did the RFT or push back shoulder, and right hand slapped the ball straight down my plane line with chips, pitches, hybrids, and drivers. Every once in a while, I pulled with my front shoulder. Most of the time I compressed the ball. The shots were straight and the distances were better than ever.

The range was hard so it was great to see the shots fly straight and a 9 iron was rolling about 140ish -145 ish. Good, actually better than ever but...There was no potential in all of that to possibly explain the power and flow of a talented ball striker.


After reading this thread and watching the video noted above, I tried some of the vertical hammering drills. I hit the hell out of the ceiling and scared the dogs. I'm painting the house in July, anyway, so a little more KIlz and everything will be ok.

Impact fix, RFT, Vertical hammer. or shoulder back and vertical hammer

Full up-plane ripping speed/swivel happiness!

Amazing stuff!

Thanks!

Patrick

One cool thing to try may be to. . .

Just throw it down behind the ball and gradually inch the contact point closer and closer until you actuall strike the ball then the turf and see what happens.

I have been fortunate enough to see Preachapokechop demo this . . . it's cool. I think the vertical hammering should give you a feel of what the #2 pressure point should be sensing. I used to try to feel like I was just holding the left wrist flat and feel it via #2. That ain't it.

If you do that hammering thing and really focus on the #2 pressure point and NOT the CLUBHEAD . . . you feel it load . . . I have come to believe that the Flat Left Wrist is more about DYNAMIC PROPER MOTION than just holding the freakin' thing flat.

Again Homer said if you THROW OUT you will not BEND. And I don't think this leads to any kind of circle path either. Experiment with this hammering deal. Do it via the left triceps ala a Non-Automatic release. Then hammer vertically by trying to drag the heel of the hand down and let CF really throw it out. You can feel the Snap Release. It's just in a vertical plane.

I love this dealie. Probably not thing for Hitters but makes a lot of sense for the Swinger.

[TipTopSaidHe]

Yeah that drill is AWESOME . . . I have seen Yoda do it. He actually demos it on the Address series on the inclined plane.

i cannot find this demo and would really, really like (need) to see it. any ideas as to where...i watched the two address vids, but not the ted fort one, as i'm not a hitter. any help would be appreciated.

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[laangels]

What about when using 10-2-D? Should the uncocking be delayed enough to ensure the left wrist does not bend near impact? Possible lean towards simultaneous release then?

[mb6606]

How does the left wrist hammer throw work in conjunction with the #3 PP straight line to the ball? One is left hand the other right hand.