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Old 05-14-2010, 10:58 PM
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I know, this is exactly why everyone thinks we are insane. But.......


Hooding is the opposite of Layback. Cant be done dynamically during the impact interval as a Hinge Action or whatever.................can it? Wouldnt that require a horrific slide? I dunno.

Hooding at Address, however.........that is a different story, a different definition.

Dont scare that guy away, guys. Tell him about Hinge Actions.........

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Old 05-15-2010, 06:12 AM
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I know, this is exactly why everyone thinks we are insane. But.......


Hooding is the opposite of Layback. Cant be done dynamically during the impact interval as a Hinge Action or whatever.................can it? Wouldnt that require a horrific slide? I dunno.

Hooding at Address, however.........that is a different story, a different definition.

Dont scare that guy away, guys. Tell him about Hinge Actions.........
Hooding cannot employ a Hinge.
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Old 05-15-2010, 09:18 AM
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I know, this is exactly why everyone thinks we are insane. But.......


Hooding is the opposite of Layback. Cant be done dynamically during the impact interval as a Hinge Action or whatever.................can it? Wouldnt that require a horrific slide? I dunno.

Hooding at Address, however.........that is a different story, a different definition.

Dont scare that guy away, guys. Tell him about Hinge Actions.........
OB,
You're going to get some hooding with the irons due to shaft flex action as a result of impact. Whether that happens during or after impact - whether it's a result of the club contacting the ball or the club contacting the ground -just realize that "hooding" is something that happens in the golf swing. It would fall under Daryl's definition of "That would require the Grip moving faster than the Clubhead" due to the flexibility of the shaft and the deceleration of the clubhead due to impact. You can see that if you look at the hosel above in Daryl's post- leaning more forward in the last frame versus the first frame. Of course, that means that in Daryl's post above - since the face is also closing - that the four frames would also fit under his definition of "Shutting".

By the way - you are insane - people realize it - no one thinks that Daryl or I are insane - merely rational normal people. Please don't group everyone together with you. I know you Canadian's like groups but some of us are still into rugged USA individualism! Soon we won't need to deal with you - Bagger is close to perfecting the "Canadian Blocker" on the website- then it will be clear sailing! Is the snow off the ground yet
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OB,
You're going to get some hooding with the irons due to shaft flex action as a result of impact. Whether that happens during or after impact - whether it's a result of the club contacting the ball or the club contacting the ground -just realize that "hooding" is something that happens in the golf swing. It would fall under Daryl's definition of "That would require the Grip moving faster than the Clubhead" due to the flexibility of the shaft and the deceleration of the clubhead due to impact. You can see that if you look at the hosel above in Daryl's post- leaning more forward in the last frame versus the first frame. Of course, that means that in Daryl's post above - since the face is also closing - that the four frames would also fit under his definition of "Shutting".

By the way - you are insane - people realize it - no one thinks that Daryl or I are insane - merely rational normal people. Please don't group everyone together with you. I know you Canadian's like groups but some of us are still into rugged USA individualism! Soon we won't need to deal with you - Bagger is close to perfecting the "Canadian Blocker" on the website- then it will be clear sailing! Is the snow off the ground yet
Don't think you're gettin' into OB's pants via complementing Canada and the snow route . . . MO-ron . . . he don't kiss people who think the handle of a toof brush is the fuzzy end . . . dooooofus.

The hosel would be forward due to the ball hitting the face back and the handle keeps moving no? Maybe the ball was hit in the heel . . .
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Don't think you're gettin' into OB's pants via complementing Canada and the snow route . . . MO-ron . . . he don't kiss people who think the handle of a toof brush is the fuzzy end . . . dooooofus.

The hosel would be forward due to the ball hitting the face back and the handle keeps moving no? Maybe the ball was hit in the heel . . .
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OB,
You're going to get some hooding with the irons due to shaft flex action as a result of impact. Whether that happens during or after impact - whether it's a result of the club contacting the ball or the club contacting the ground -just realize that "hooding" is something that happens in the golf swing. It would fall under Daryl's definition of "That would require the Grip moving faster than the Clubhead" due to the flexibility of the shaft and the deceleration of the clubhead due to impact. You can see that if you look at the hosel above in Daryl's post- leaning more forward in the last frame versus the first frame. Of course, that means that in Daryl's post above - since the face is also closing - that the four frames would also fit under his definition of "Shutting".

By the way - you are insane - people realize it - no one thinks that Daryl or I are insane - merely rational normal people. Please don't group everyone together with you. I know you Canadian's like groups but some of us are still into rugged USA individualism! Soon we won't need to deal with you - Bagger is close to perfecting the "Canadian Blocker" on the website- then it will be clear sailing! Is the snow off the ground yet


"Blah blah blah Daryl, blah blah blah Daryl"...............its you two that are forming a group it would appear............not that there's anything wrong with that kind of thing............north of the Mason Dixon anyways.


Diam asked a "simple question" ..........he deserves a simple answer..........if that is possible with you two guys..........and you say Im insane!

I agree you need some definitions, which Im sure you two "visionaries" can debate for a couple of years, which'll be great reading for the rest of us and all ......... but why dont you just tell him about ball flight laws, Hinge Actions, the Line of Compression. This was Homers biggest revelation to my mind (although he had a few of 'em), what a lot of the book refers to.

Diam's sniffing around the right spot, impact. It aint what it first appears to be, an application of straight line, linear force with a club face that stays square through impact. But it isnt a closed or hooded face either...............although I guess it must hood some like you say.

Im still hearing guys on tv talking about keeping the face square through the shot, taking the club straight down the line etc ..............despite the fact that 2-C-0 has been in print for 41 years.

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Nice one Daryl. The implications there given the direction of the line of compression, hinge action and the point of contact on the ball and face remaining intact, "as if welded together" are so so important to solid, nutted, compressed shots.

What about the text from 2-C-0? You know......."Briefly stated ......etc"

And how do you do that anyways? Have you got the book in digital form or something?

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Old 05-15-2010, 02:44 PM
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Nice one Daryl. The implications there given the direction of the line of compression, hinge action and the point of contact on the ball and face remaining intact, "as if welded together" are so so important to solid, nutted, compressed shots.

What about the text from 2-C-0? You know......."Briefly stated ......etc"

And how do you do that anyways? Have you got the book in digital form or something?
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