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Old 01-23-2005, 12:36 AM
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Sensing the Pressure Points
I'm a TGM beginner. Trying to understand the Pressure Points, I wonder what yoda and all think of this one. Requires a club and something about 30"-36" above the "ground" for resistance. I use either some big throw pillows tucked into the corner of the sofa, or my stand bag.

I hold the club with flat left and bent right wrists and then take the club to a Downstroke position where the shaft is just above parallel to the ground and the Plane Line. I set the club into the sofa pillows, maintaining the parallel positions. From here, trying to move the club through the pillows really brings out the feeling of the four Pressure Points and how they each react differently to different ways of moving the club. It seems like a way I can work on quite a lot of TGM concepts and also gain some muscle memory and resistance strength training of some underused muscles. (Right now I'm using it to get the feel of PP3 accepting the resistance of the shaft, not creating it, which is hard for me to physically adapt to.)

Whadya think? Thanks.
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Old 03-05-2005, 12:45 AM
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The left wrist doesn't have to start flat but it needs to be flat at and through impact to follow-through (both arms straight). Demonstrate the three hinge actions in slow motion with your left hand only, moving the club 2 feet back and through. Repeat with your eyes closed and then begin to build length and speed. Let me know how it works.
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:05 PM
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Re: Sensing the Pressure Points
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I'm a TGM beginner. Trying to understand the Pressure Points, I wonder what yoda and all think of this one. Requires a club and something about 30"-36" above the "ground" for resistance. I use either some big throw pillows tucked into the corner of the sofa, or my stand bag.

I hold the club with flat left and bent right wrists and then take the club to a Downstroke position where the shaft is just above parallel to the ground and the Plane Line. I set the club into the sofa pillows, maintaining the parallel positions. From here, trying to move the club through the pillows really brings out the feeling of the four Pressure Points and how they each react differently to different ways of moving the club. It seems like a way I can work on quite a lot of TGM concepts and also gain some muscle memory and resistance strength training of some underused muscles. (Right now I'm using it to get the feel of PP3 accepting the resistance of the shaft, not creating it, which is hard for me to physically adapt to.)

Whadya think? Thanks.
Sounds good. But if you really want to feel where they are in an extreme fashion. Take a towel wrap it around your clubhead. Get in your golf posture and put the clubhead with wrapped towel behind your right foot. Now drag (swinging) and drive (hitting) the towel through to both arms straight. You can really feel where the pressure points are.
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Old 03-06-2005, 11:48 PM
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Right now I'm using it to get the feel of PP3 accepting the resistance of the shaft, not creating it, which is hard for me to physically adapt to.

Whadya think? Thanks.

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This is really, really great, Streak.

Just substitute the words 'Clubhead Lag' -- the inertia of the Lagging Sweet Spot which does not want to go along with you -- for the word 'Shaft' and you've got it.

Homer: "It [the Lag] just sags in there [the meaty part of the Right Forefinger]. It goes along because it has to. You don't throw the Club: You drag it through like a baby brother."
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Old 03-07-2005, 12:45 AM
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Re: The Feel Of The Clubhead Lag -- Word Games
Lynn,
How does "You don't throw the Club:" go along with the golf stroke as "throw"? Is it throwing the pressure points? Throwing the accumulators? I know that we aren't throwing the clubhead, so what are we throwing?

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Right now I'm using it to get the feel of PP3 accepting the resistance of the shaft, not creating it, which is hard for me to physically adapt to.

Whadya think? Thanks.

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This is really, really great, Streak.

Just substitute the words 'Clubhead Lag' -- the inertia of the Lagging Sweet Spot which does not want to go along with you -- for the word 'Shaft' and you've got it.

Homer: "It [the Lag] just sags in there [the meaty part of the Right Forefinger]. It goes along because it has to. You don't throw the Club: You drag it through like a baby brother."
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:10 PM
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Re: The Feel Of The Clubhead Lag -- Word Games
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Lynn,
How does "You don't throw the Club:" go along with the golf stroke as "throw"? Is it throwing the pressure points? Throwing the accumulators? I know that we aren't throwing the clubhead, so what are we throwing?
'throwing' the club gives you clubhead lag, but not lag pressure

think of the flail, of cracking a whip - the proper sequence must be there

You CAN get the proper sequence by doing the 'club throwing' drill, it is a very useful drill, but you still need to add lag pressure to that equation. No doubt that a drag feel, the towel drill, is a wonderul way to feel this.

Heck, you can do this by simply taking a t-shirt or towel and swinging it - swing back WAIT for it to hit you (near the center of your shoulders/back), and DRAG through - let it hit you, again near 'center' - back and through, back and through - a great tempo trainer, as well as lag pressure

Learning the feel of lag pressure was the single best thing I have learned from TGM, with the possible exception of DOWN, down, down

feel those pressure points in your hands
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:20 PM
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EdZ,
I'm not really talking about "throwing the club". I am talking about the golf swing as a throw. Lynn has a hat with THROW written on it and talked quite a bit about how the golf swing is a throwing motion. I just wanted him to go a little deeper into this.
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:41 PM
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At the Top I hadn't really felt PP#3 until working with Yoda. And actually the exercises he had me do were great, but later at home again even with the exercises I wasn't experiencing the same. THEN.... I mucked with the grip of the right hand cause it was obvious that PP#1 was not right and in doing so the right thumb over the shaft, less tightness of the index finger and PP#3 was back. I can only conclude that I was trying to get PP#3 to do what PP#1 was to do and the tightness made it such that I didn't sense PP#3. (Death grip with the right index finger )

Six months ago I would have never type a paragraph like above. When you haven't experienced it, it is hard to know it is not there, but once you have, then you know when it is real and when it is not.
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At the Top I hadn't really felt PP#3 until working with Yoda. And actually the exercises he had me do were great, but later at home again even with the exercises I wasn't experiencing the same. THEN.... I mucked with the grip of the right hand cause it was obvious that PP#1 was not right and in doing so the right thumb over the shaft, less tightness of the index finger and PP#3 was back. I can only conclude that I was trying to get PP#3 to do what PP#1 was to do and the tightness made it such that I didn't sense PP#3. (Death grip with the right index finger )

Six months ago I would have never type a paragraph like above. When you haven't experienced it, it is hard to know it is not there, but once you have, then you know when it is real and when it is not.
Hey Martee,

Could you expand on the exercises prescribed by Yoda to feel pp3?

Thanks!

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