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Old 10-25-2005, 10:40 PM
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#2 The Dissed Pressure Point
Poor ole Pressure Point #2 gets treated like number 2 as in poo. His more industrious and well liked brothers . . .

Everybody loves #3. He gets to be the lens of the flashlight tracing plane lines. And he gets to drive straight down the Line Delivery Path through Impact, Low Point and Follow-through. How exiting for him. #3 is the quarterback calling plays.

Then there is #1 . . . the violent one. Wacking Plane Lines with Karate Chops and Punches. Plus having his way with the rag doll Left Arm and even pushing #3 around in Hitting.

And how about the #4 . . . he gets the party started right? He get's your body movin' and groovin'.

BUT PRESSURE POINT #2 GETS NO RESPECT!!!!

His daddy is the #2 Accumulator the Velocity Accumulator. Cocking and Uncocking to Full Extension sustaining the Line of Compression. Pressure Point #2's daddy can get DOWN too! He's responsible for the Downward Angle of Attack.

But what about Pressure Point #2? We can feel #3. #1 gives us the feel of the Hitter's Active Drive and the structure of Extensor Action. We can feel #4 welded to our chest and then BLASTED OFF.

What should we feel with #2? CF Uncocking the Left Wrist? Are we feeling the Flat Left Wrist with #2?

Also per 6-B-2-0, "Centrifugal Force, Accumulator #1, the muscles of both forearms, any -or all- are available to actuate this Assembly." What is this? I thought there was little contribution from the Left Arm? He said "the muscles of BOTH forearms." So are we actuating #2 via the Left Forearm?

I'm just trying to stick up for #2. Let's give him a little love here? Just like fat people need love too, so does the #2 pressure point!

Sentimentally yours,

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Old 10-25-2005, 10:54 PM
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You were the second son in the family, right?

two is cool- its the pulling pp- its the other side of the flat left wrist and should put the shaft in a linear position so the "stars" 3 and 4 can bring it home.

One year playing football I was an inside defensive lineman in what was called a Penn State 4-4. My job was to prevent offensive lineman from blocking the linebackers so they can make all the tackles. Gad I felt like pp#2 that year. LOL
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:27 PM
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I think if you're a good player and really know how to "swing" you realize how important #2 really is.

There are times when i spin that gyroscope so hard that my right hand comes off like VJ but the #3 stays on the shaft and i have this HUUUUUUUUUUGE sensation in my #2pp (last 3 fingers of the left hand)

I know it's important, better players feel it (if they swing), but i think the other pp are more important for "beginners."

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Old 10-26-2005, 10:32 AM
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PP#2 is the one I focus on.

It's the only one you need to worry about in the left hand. I like to feel like my left index finger is almost passively sitting on the grip.....seems to help with more startup swivel and keeping the club "floating" in my hands....good feelign for a Swinger.

Ya on the left hand I only focus on PP2 and the shaft loading onto my left thumb.

When I'm holding it in PP2 and the shaft is on my left thumb I know my swivel is complete, my left wrist is cocked, and I'm set to rip the ball (the only other thing I need in the backswing is Extensor Action, really).

BTW....regarding the left thumb....why did Homer not include this pressure point? This thumb is one of my favourite things to monitor.

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Old 10-26-2005, 11:55 AM
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Uncorking the #2 Genie in the Bottle
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket

What should we feel with #2? CF Uncocking the Left Wrist? Are we feeling the Flat Left Wrist with #2?
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Good stuff Bucket. Hope you don't mind me taking off my Admin/Techie hat and "chipping in" but this has been on my mind lately and I need to hatch another egg. First a few reference points..

7-11 Fundamentally, Power must flow from its source (the Accumulators) and must be exerted against something (Pressure Points) that will directly or indirectly drive the Club through impact.

10-11-0 Again - any time Accumulators #2 and #3 (the hands) are employed, but only Pressure Points #1 and/or #4 (the arms) are used to actuate the Primary Lever Assembly, so that Centrifugal force alone actuates the Secondary Lever Assembly, this would be the classic golf "Swing" and the Clubshaft would exhibit the "Rope Handle" characteristics...

10-11-02 Pressure Point #2 acutates the Secondary Lever Assembly, normally, only as "Passive Clubhead Lag"...and is a Swingers Rope Handle application.


So in normal operation, the classic golf swing, PP #2 is passively monitoring the left wrist cock action throughout the swing. 4-B 1,2,3. (For those without the book, there are some good pictures in the above references.) Essentially a flat left wrist that is level, cocked and uncocked. Like hammering a nail, you are feeling the cocking and uncocking with the #2 pressure point. We are not feeling any pressure changes on the left thumb as it's location is not assigned to the top of the shaft (hammer handle), and it's playing a supporting role, not a lag loading role.

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Also per 6-B-2-0, "Centrifugal Force, Accumulator #1, the muscles of both forearms, any -or all- are available to actuate this Assembly." What is this? I thought there was little contribution from the Left Arm? He said "the muscles of BOTH forearms." So are we actuating #2 via the Left Forearm?
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This is a very interesting question and one I've been pondering. What if...we want to load the secondary accumulator early or late by manual override?
What if...we want to manually override centrifugal force and throw the secondary accumulator early or late in the downswing?
The loading and unloading of these actions are monitored by PP #2. Are we contending with throwaway if we manipulate the #2 accumulator?
Are we disrupting hinge action rhythm if we manipulate the synchronized release of uncocking then rolling?

In 7-19 Homer mentions - Rolling and/or Uncocking have their assignment of doing any throwing of the clubhead.

Don't think I answered your questions directly, but I'm with ya buddy. I'm trying to let this genie out of the bottle and understand it better.
Loading, Release Types, and Triggers...oh my!

Thanks,

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Old 10-27-2005, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
Good stuff Bucket. Hope you don't mind me taking off my Admin/Techie hat and "chipping in" but this has been on my mind lately and I need to hatch another egg. First a few reference points..

7-11 Fundamentally, Power must flow from its source (the Accumulators) and must be exerted against something (Pressure Points) that will directly or indirectly drive the Club through impact.

10-11-0 Again - any time Accumulators #2 and #3 (the hands) are employed, but only Pressure Points #1 and/or #4 (the arms) are used to actuate the Primary Lever Assembly, so that Centrifugal force alone actuates the Secondary Lever Assembly, this would be the classic golf "Swing" and the Clubshaft would exhibit the "Rope Handle" characteristics...

10-11-02 Pressure Point #2 acutates the Secondary Lever Assembly, normally, only as "Passive Clubhead Lag"...and is a Swingers Rope Handle application.


So in normal operation, the classic golf swing, PP #2 is passively monitoring the left wrist cock action throughout the swing. 4-B 1,2,3. (For those without the book, there are some good pictures in the above references.) Essentially a flat left wrist that is level, cocked and uncocked. Like hammering a nail, you are feeling the cocking and uncocking with the #2 pressure point. We are not feeling any pressure changes on the left thumb as it's location is not assigned to the top of the shaft (hammer handle), and it's playing a supporting role, not a lag loading role.



This is a very interesting question and one I've been pondering. What if...we want to load the secondary accumulator early or late by manual override?
What if...we want to manually override centrifugal force and throw the secondary accumulator early or late in the downswing?
The loading and unloading of these actions are monitored by PP #2. Are we contending with throwaway if we manipulate the #2 accumulator?
Are we disrupting hinge action rhythm if we manipulate the synchronized release of uncocking then rolling?

In 7-19 Homer mentions - Rolling and/or Uncocking have their assignment of doing any throwing of the clubhead.

Don't think I answered your questions directly, but I'm with ya buddy. I'm trying to let this genie out of the bottle and understand it better.
Loading, Release Types, and Triggers...oh my!

Thanks,

Bagger
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Conversations with #2 - (context - not a potty-mouth discussion)

OK Bagger, you've reached the end of your backswing.

Wooohhh there Bagger - you just threw the clubhead too far past the end. The handle just bounced off me! Now you got some catch'in up to do Lucy!

No, No, Bagger don't squeeze me early in the downswing unless you mean it!

Nice Bagger, I'm loaded and ready for start down. Just keep me loaded and don't stop me buddy.
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Old 11-04-2005, 08:29 PM
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Bucket,

How about the pull of the clubshaft through impact? #2 is behind the shaft just like #3. After the uncocking of accumulator 2 and roll of accumulator 3. Is #2 helping sense not only the pull of the clubshaft through impact (swinging), but also any variations in the flat left wrist condition.
I think so, but my hands could be deceiving me.

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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
Bucket,

How about the pull of the clubshaft through impact? #2 is behind the shaft just like #3. After the uncocking of accumulator 2 and roll of accumulator 3. Is #2 helping sense not only the pull of the clubshaft through impact (swinging), but also any variations in the flat left wrist condition.
I think so, but my hands could be deceiving me.

Thanks,

Bagger
I would agree on this . . . I guess you could feel the Flat Left Wrist via #2 or the Uncocking of the Left Wrist to full extension.

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Old 11-05-2005, 09:17 PM
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Bucket,

How about the pull of the clubshaft through impact? #2 is behind the shaft just like #3. After the uncocking of accumulator 2 and roll of accumulator 3. Is #2 helping sense not only the pull of the clubshaft through impact (swinging), but also any variations in the flat left wrist condition.
I think so, but my hands could be deceiving me.

Thanks,

Bagger
Bagger, I noticed that while I was practicing bunker shots, if I concentrated on PP#2, I would execute horizontal hinging better, and also finish swivel with a flat wrist. Would this be something for a swinger to translate to regular shots?
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