left Hand Karate Chop

[DDL]

With my few remaining brain cells, I have hopefully figured out this most elusive of phrases, the left hand karate chop. As a swinger, one keeps the left palm face down to the inclined plane, and allows the pivot to swing the left arm in a left hand karate chop motion downplane until the release point, where the left wrist uncocks and the left hand no longer faces down on the inclined plane, but swivels through the impact zone, sequentially.

The problem I had with the above was I was aiming the uncocking left wrist at the ball or aiming point, which I thought one was supposed to do. That meant I was probably tracing the plane line with my left arm.

I think I understand now. One performs the left hand karate chop at the ball, but one aims PP#3 , not the left wrist or left hand . Significant difference since PP#3 and the left wrist are separated by about 5-6 inches. That way, one is tracing the plane line with the right forearm and PP#3 while at the same time perfroming the left hand karate chop motion with the left arm, wrist and hand.

Haven't tried this yet, but I hope this may finally clear up the confusion my body and brain have had with simultaneous and sequential release. I have been unintentionally performing a simultaneous release while swinging. Swinging with one long swivel from the top, where my left hand does not stay palm down to the plane. It immediately rolls at startdown.Not good for swinging.

To sum up, I hope this is correct. Swingers left hand karate chop PP#3 towards the aiming point or inside corner of the ball.

[Matt]

Sounds like you got it!

[Bagger Lance]

You got it.

Number 3 aims only. No thrust for swingers and the left hand will uncock in it's karate chop motion. This is the period of clubhead acceleration. The hands stay at the same basic speed but the overtaking of the clubhead is through the downplane uncocking of the left wrist. The roll into impact is automagic. You don't have to force the roll (horizontal hinge) into and through impact. Just trust it.

Bagger

[Yoda]

Swingers left hand karate chop PP#3 towards the aiming point or inside corner of the ball.

DDL,

When Swinging, it helps to think of the Hands -- both the Karate-Chopping Left and the Lag Pressure-Sensing Right -- as the 'point' of the Left Arm Flying Wedge (the Left Arm and Club). Then, drive them directly toward the Ball (or alternative Aiming Point). When Hitting, think of the Hands as the 'point' of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge, and do the same.

[DDL]

Originally Posted by DDL

Swingers left hand karate chop PP#3 towards the aiming point or inside corner of the ball.

DDL,

When Swinging, it helps to think of the Hands -- both the Karate-Chopping Left and the Lag Pressure-Sensing Right -- as the 'point' of the Left Arm Flying Wedge (the Left Arm and Club). Then, drive them directly toward the Ball (or alternative Aiming Point). When Hitting, think of the Hands as the 'point' of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge, and do the same.

Is this the same as imagining PP#3 as an extension of the left arm flying wedge, thus I am attempting to smash the ball/aiming point/plane line with PP#3 via a left arm flying wedge karate chop motion?

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Originally Posted by DDL Swingers left hand karate chop PP#3 towards the aiming point or inside corner of the ball. DDL, When Swinging, it helps to think of the Hands -- both the Karate-Chopping Left and the Lag Pressure-Sensing Right -- as the 'point' of the Left Arm Flying Wedge (the Left Arm and Club). Then, drive them directly toward the Ball (or alternative Aiming Point). When Hitting, think of the Hands as the 'point' of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge, and do the same.

Is this the same as imagining PP#3 as an extension of the left arm flying wedge, thus I am attempting to smash the ball/aiming point/plane line with PP#3 via a left arm flying wedge karate chop motion?

When Swinging, Centrifugal Force is doing the actual 'Smashing.' The #3 Pressure Point is only guiding -- aiming -- this Thrust. When Hitting, Right Elbow Muscle Power against the #3 Pressure Point supplies both Aiming and Thrust.

[EdZ]

Originally Posted by DDL

Swingers left hand karate chop PP#3 towards the aiming point or inside corner of the ball.

DDL,

When Swinging, it helps to think of the Hands -- both the Karate-Chopping Left and the Lag Pressure-Sensing Right -- as the 'point' of the Left Arm Flying Wedge (the Left Arm and Club). Then, drive them directly toward the Ball (or alternative Aiming Point). When Hitting, think of the Hands as the 'point' of the Right Forearm Flying Wedge, and do the same.

=D>

[redan]

Thank you, this thread is quite helpful to me.

[DDL]

Wouldn't it be easier to visualize a right arm/wrist karate chop? That way the right arm is used for clubhead control and the left hand for clubface control. Clear and distinctly different roles. Another aspect of the left hand karate chop that confused me was that it placed clubhead control onto the wrong arm. Think about the bent back right wrist doing a karate chop motion with the right palm face up to the inclined plane.

[Yoda]

Wouldn't it be easier to visualize a right arm/wrist karate chop? That way the right arm is used for clubhead control and the left hand for clubface control. Clear and distinctly different roles. Another aspect of the left hand karate chop that confused me was that it placed clubhead control onto the wrong arm. Think about the bent back right wrist doing a karate chop motion with the right palm face up to the inclined plane.

The Swinger Loads the Left Wrist and Triggers centrifugually the Sequenced Release of the Left Wrist and Hand. Hence the 'Left Hand Karate Chop' (Palm down to the Plane) followed by the Left Hand Swivel.

The Hitter Loads the Right Elbow and Triggers muscularly the Simultaneous Release of the Left Wrist and Hand. Hence, there is no Left Hand Karate Chop Motion nor any Left Hand Swivel. Instead, driven by the straightening Right Arm, the Left Wrist Uncocks as the Left Hand Rolls. In this manner, the Left Palm immediately begins its return from its On Plane alignment at the Top to its Vertical alignment at Impact.