Any swingers left - Snap Release

[Bagger Lance]

Boy those hitters sure need a lot of help!!!

Guess us swingers are a happy bunch!

I know I need some first aid. Anybody ready to tackle my problems???
How about sequencing #2 and #3 for a snap release.

I have a random sweep of #2 and #3. How do you hold it longer into the downstroke?

Ted "The Hitman" Fort gave me the answer in person, but I'd like to hear it from the swing team!

Thanks!!!

Bagger

[6bmike]

Boy those hitters sure need a lot of help!!!

Guess us swingers are a happy bunch!

I know I need some first aid. Anybody ready to tackle my problems???
How about sequencing #2 and #3 for a snap release.

I have a random sweep of #2 and #3. How do you hold it longer into the downstroke?

Ted "The Hitman" Fort gave me the answer in person, but I'd like to hear it from the swing team!

Thanks!!!

Bagger

Homer did say you can Swing in your sleep. :P

Don't HOLD anything while Swinging. I tend to Sweep with my driver. It may only be my "seems as if" feeling of an earlier throw or an earlier dumping of #3pp on the ball but my #2 #3 uncock and roll is still automatic and perhaps no different then using snap- only "seems as if."

Bottom line is don't hold anything IMHO.

[Bagger Lance]

6B,

I hear ya! But here's what happens...

On a normal swing I begin to uncock and then rolling when the right forearm is parallel to the ground.

When I focus on an aiming point in front of the ball, say for short irons, the dragging of the butt of the club down, down, down creates a much quicker sequence. Then without enough time for roll...there she goes....

Bagger

[6bmike]

from BL
6B,

I hear ya! But here's what happens...

On a normal swing I begin to uncock and then rolling when the right forearm is parallel to the ground.

Do you mean you roll after impact when both arms are straight going into follow through? I see the uncocking of #2 and the roll of #3 as almost simultaneous. Sequenced but within inches of each other. Isn't swivel a bit later in the stroke? Sorry if I seem confused - its late.

When I focus on an aiming point in front of the ball, say for short irons, the dragging of the butt of the club down, down, down creates a much quicker sequence. Then without enough time for roll...there she goes....

Bagger

I have been Hitting with shorter clubs- does this disqualify me from the Swingers fraternity?

With shorter clubs, the way I see or feel it, I need to actively drive #3pp down on the ball, perhaps using more of a non-automatic snap release. I like to feel I am “digging” the ball off the turf (rough for me) with #3pp- like a knife. I may not roll #3 accumulator as much and proceed to swivel.

6b and out.

[nevermind]

6B,

I hear ya! But here's what happens...

On a normal swing I begin to uncock and then rolling when the right forearm is parallel to the ground.

When I focus on an aiming point in front of the ball, say for short irons, the dragging of the butt of the club down, down, down creates a much quicker sequence. Then without enough time for roll...there she goes....

Bagger

if your implying a shank, I thinks thats what i'm having trouble with.

[MizunoJoe]

BL wrote "I have a random sweep of #2 and #3. How do you hold it longer into the downstroke?"

From the Top, swing the handle past the ball without moving the clubhead.

[Bagger Lance]

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance

6B, When I focus on an aiming point in front of the ball, say for short irons, the dragging of the butt of the club down, down, down creates a much quicker sequence. Then without enough time for roll...there she goes.... Bagger

if your implying a shank, I thinks thats what i'm having trouble with.

I've had that happen on the range when experimenting with this. Especially with the wedges.

I agree with MJ that you need to swing the handle past the ball without moving the clubhead, but if CF takes over well outside the right thigh, then you can't get there.

The solution for me for both of the above is to make sure I'm applying enough extensor action throughout the swing. It "frees the wrists of considerable responsibility, and adds power package mass" If memory serves. Need to lookup 6-B-1-D again. Ted suggested this to me and at first it didn't click why it would help with a snap release.
In practice, applying extensor action on the downswing (it's not pushing), just holding the power package fairly rigid, allows the wrist to really flail at the bottom with a sequenced uncock and roll. Can anyone else confirm this?

Thanks,

Bagger

[mb6606]

I have a random sweep of #2 and #3. How do you hold it longer into the downstroke?

The smaller the pulley the slower one can swing.

[EdZ]

Originally Posted by nevermind

Originally Posted by Bagger Lance 6B, When I focus on an aiming point in front of the ball, say for short irons, the dragging of the butt of the club down, down, down creates a much quicker sequence. Then without enough time for roll...there she goes.... Bagger if your implying a shank, I thinks thats what i'm having trouble with.

I've had that happen on the range when experimenting with this. Especially with the wedges.

I agree with MJ that you need to swing the handle past the ball without moving the clubhead, but if CF takes over well outside the right thigh, then you can't get there.

The solution for me for both of the above is to make sure I'm applying enough extensor action throughout the swing. It "frees the wrists of considerable responsibility, and adds power package mass" If memory serves. Need to lookup 6-B-1-D again. Ted suggested this to me and at first it didn't click why it would help with a snap release.
In practice, applying extensor action on the downswing (it's not pushing), just holding the power package fairly rigid, allows the wrist to really flail at the bottom with a sequenced uncock and roll. Can anyone else confirm this?

Thanks,

Bagger

That has certainly been my experience. Extensor action simplifies Rhythm IMO.

[Yoda]

Extensor action simplifies Rhythm IMO.

As Homer would say, Ed..."Kee-rect!"

Rhythm in The Golfing Machine is defined as maintaining the In-Line condition of the Left Arm and Club (Primary Lever Assembly) during the Impact Interval (6-B-3-0). The Flat Left Wrist directly controls this Rhythm by executing one of the three Hinge Actions (2-G). This, in turn, determines the unique degree of Clubhead Travel and Clubface Closing from Impact to the end of the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight).

However, despite this veneer control of the Flat Left Wrist and its Hinge Action (2-G), it is the straightening Right Elbow -- driven Centrifugally (Swinging) or Muscularly (Hitting) -- that actuates the Roll of the Primary Lever Assembly (Left Arm and Club) through Impact. That being the case, the Right Elbow's Location during Impact will directly and dramatically affect:

1. The amount of Clubhead Travel;

2. The degree of Clubface Closing; and thereby

3. The Rhythm of the Stroke.

There are many things that can disrupt the Right Elbow Location pre-selected at Impact Fix. Among the most important of these is the lack of Extensor Action. Unless the Right Arm is kept constantly stretched, it can stretch at any time, and this 'wobble' factor can be highly disruptive.

But with Extensor Action applied, the Right Arm can straighten only as the Left Arm moves away from the Right Shoulder (6-B-1-0). This produces a smooth, unbroken Acceleration of the Lever Assemblies (6-A-2/3); a consistent Right Elbow Location; and, hence, the correct amount of Clubhead Travel and degree of Clubface Closing throughout the Impact Interval (6-B-1-D #3).

All this is Rhythm...the Third Essential of The Golfing Machine (2-0).