Checking for On Plane Clubshaft

[Daryl]

When the Clubshaft is parallel to the ground, the Clubshaft should also be parallel to the base line of the Inclined Plane.

What is the answer to the apparent discrepancy that the Wristcock occurs on the plane of the Left Arm Flying Wedge? Is Bending the Left Wrist the only way possible?

We can't have it both ways can we?

[EdZ]

When the Clubshaft is parallel to the ground, the Clubshaft should also be parallel to the base line of the Inclined Plane.

What is the answer to the apparent discrepancy that the Wristcock occurs on the plane of the Left Arm Flying Wedge? Is Bending the Left Wrist the only way possible?

We can't have it both ways can we?

Per 10-2-B, make sure your left thumb is 'aft' and you have some 'gap' between your left thumb and index finger.

Without the gap, you can't do it, you would need to bend the left wrist.

[Daryl]

Per 10-2-B, make sure your left thumb is 'aft' and you have some 'gap' between your left thumb and index finger.

Without the gap, you can't do it, you would need to bend the left wrist.

Edz, your response is very much appreciated. Are you saying that you can cock the left wrist on the plane of the left arm flying wedge and inclined plane at the same time?

[EdZ]

Edz, your response is very much appreciated. Are you saying that you can cock the left wrist on the plane of the left arm flying wedge and inclined plane at the same time?

The 'gap' in the thumb is effectively the difference between the left arm flying wedge and 'the plane'.

The left thumb is 'on plane' for the most part (PP#1). While the left arm/flying wedge is basically 'a bit above' plane'.

Think of 'hugging the plane' - it stays between your arms.

[Daryl]

The 'gap' in the thumb is effectively the difference between the left arm flying wedge and 'the plane'.

The left thumb is 'on plane' for the most part (PP#1). While the left arm/flying wedge is basically 'a bit above' plane'.

Think of 'hugging the plane' - it stays between your arms.

But Ed, the left arm wedge forms a flat plane that runs the length of the left arm and clubshaft. How can you cock on the plane of the left arm flying wedge and the inclined plane at the same time?

Which plane was HK referring to (inclined or left arm wedge) when he wrote that for the swinger, the #3 pressure point is directly opposed to the On Plane loading Action of the Secondary Lever Assembly?

No trick question here. I went out to try Mathews procedures he posted in the "Spheres" thread and found that cocking the left wrist on the plane of the Left Arm Flying Wedge was a superior procedure to cocking the left wrist on the inclined plane. He confirmed and agreed. So did HK mean the left arm plane or inclined plane?

[EdZ]

The left arm wedge is 'against' the plane, the left wrist cock is 'on' the plane.

Anatomically flat allows this. Visually flat does not, which is why it is technially an 'arched' position. Of course grip type comes into play.

[Daryl]

The left arm wedge is 'against' the plane, the left wrist cock is 'on' the plane.

Anatomically flat allows this. Visually flat does not, which is why it is technially an 'arched' position. Of course grip type comes into play.

ED,

Something is wrong here.

[EdZ]

ED,

Something is wrong here.

see 10-13-D #2 for "the plane"

[Daryl]

see 10-13-D #2 for "the plane"

I know what you're saying Ed. I see it too. The Clubshaft can lie flat on the inclined plane and keep its’ radial alignment hence, left arm flying wedge undisturbed.

However, and this is the, Big however. Although the Clubshaft can lie flat on the inclined plane, the left wrist must cock and bend to keep the Clubshaft On Plane while cocking AND still keep the radial alignment of the left arm flying wedge. Otherwise, if the left wrist remains flat during the cocking motion, the Clubshaft will leave the inclined plane while cocking on the Plane of the Left Arm Flying Wedge and not disturb its alignment.

In other words, the Left Wrist can Cock on the Inclined Plane or on the plane of the Left Arm Flying Wedge, but not both at the same time unless you have a Bent Left Wrist.

In his thread “Spheres…” Mathew said:

The strict left flying wedge on an ideal mechanics is a superior procedure - like homer said about the double wrist cock - it requires a reverse roll. There is a complete overlap of 2 and 3, however you are still swinging and the pivots acceleration is still spinning the flywheel.... its still swinging

Mathew says that letting the shaft leave the inclined plane to maintain a flat left wrist and radial alignment with the left arm flying wedge is a superior procedure.

I’m trying to confirm whether the above statement by Mathew is correct. I went out to the range yesterday and tried both procedures with 200 balls. I found the above statement true. I went to the range today and hit 100 balls. Again, I found the above statement true. I think it is a superior procedure. In fact I’ve never hit the ball better. Best sound I ever heard, best #4 pressure point I’ve ever had, and best feel of #2 & #3 release motions I’ve ever had. I guess Homer would say, “Have at it”.


That’s why I started this thread and asked the question: Which plane do you think HK was referring to in 7-3? The inclined plane or the left arm flying wedge plane? I’ve read it dozens of times and I agree that he was referring to the inclined plane.

Has anyone else tried this procedure?

So, Between, Lynn, Ted, the Edz drills and that statement from Mathew, my impact has never been better, though I’m still a little foggy. What a great place this web-site is…….

[neil]

Daryl,where does it say in the book the left arm flying wedge IS THE PLANE LINE?.Now you've got me confused!.I always took it that the HANDS AND THE CLUBHEAD DEFINE THE PLANE.Iknow it says in6-B-3-O-1"the entire left arm ,the clubshaft and the back of the left hand are always positioned against the same flat plane-[i]the plane of the left wristcock motion.IALWAYS THOUGHT THIS WAS NOT THE INCLINED PLANE THAT THE HANDS TRAVEL ON -BECAUSE OF THE SHOULDER ROTATION.