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Old 02-23-2005, 01:32 AM
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10-3-A PUNCH and "Fanning."
In the section on 10-3-A PUNCH, "the Right Forearm must have a "Fanning" type of motion, not a "Linear" Push Stroke type of motion (10-3-C)."

I'm a little lost here. What the heck is a "Fanning" type of motion? In 12-1-0 DRIVE LOADING BASIC PATTERN (HITTING), the Stroke - Basic is Punch. So when you actually hit or punch something does the elbow operate in a "fanning" motion?

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Fanning Motion vs. Linear Motion
A fanning motion is when your right forearm swings back and forth, with the right elbow almost as it's pivot center. I wrote a great post explaining this on Chuck's site a while back, but it isn't accessible at the moment. Hopefully I can get to it soon and post it here.

But basically, when you "fan" your right hand gets "to the right of" your right elbow from your perspective. When you use the Push stroke and it's linear, the right hand stays "to the left of" your right elbow.
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Old 02-23-2005, 05:32 AM
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Re: 10-3-A PUNCH and "Fanning."
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
In the section on 10-3-A PUNCH, "the Right Forearm must have a "Fanning" type of motion, not a "Linear" Push Stroke type of motion (10-3-C)."

I'm a little lost here. What the heck is a "Fanning" type of motion? In 12-1-0 DRIVE LOADING BASIC PATTERN (HITTING), the Stroke - Basic is Punch. So when you actually hit or punch something does the elbow operate in a "fanning" motion?

Little help.

Thanks!

Richard
Richard,

Matt's response is correct. We'll go over it today. When I saw you last, you were setting up your hitting machine with your right elbow in a pitch position which would encourage you to load the secondary lever (the club). Fanning is a very simple motion with the loading dictating the right elbow downstroke position. It will be crystal clear at 11:30.

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Brother 12 Piece,
Master Yoda stated on another forum..."Can you clap?" as in an ovation! Fanning is a simple as that. For the more technically minded it is the "external rotation away from the medial sagitall plane of the sternohumerousjoint located in the shoulder. ie; Clapping...or the motion of an "oriental fan"

By the way this (Fanning or External Rotation) is true shoulder rotation if talking with one who understands biomechanics....Shoulder rotation as we know it involves trunk rotation of the upper thorax and is greatly influenced by both thoracic (Upper Back) and cervical (Neck) flexion(Bend)

Back to Simple ...Learn to clap with your forearm, NOT you whole arm!!!

Looks like an oriental fan!!!!

Fanning and swivel are different!

Fanning without swivel - Single Wrist Action(Fanning with 1 Finish Swivel)
Fanning with swivel - Standard Wrist Action (Fanning, 3 Swivels, Start up, Release, and Finish)

Cheerwine, Fried Chicken, and Wedges...Sounds Nice!!!

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Old 02-23-2005, 10:28 PM
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Brother 12 Piece,
Master Yoda stated on another forum..."Can you clap?" as in an ovation! Fanning is a simple as that. For the more technically minded it is the "external rotation away from the medial sagitall plane of the sternohumerousjoint located in the shoulder. ie; Clapping...or the motion of an "oriental fan"

By the way this (Fanning or External Rotation) is true shoulder rotation if talking with one who understands biomechanics....Shoulder rotation as we know it involves trunk rotation of the upper thorax and is greatly influenced by both thoracic (Upper Back) and cervical (Neck) flexion(Bend)

Back to Simple ...Learn to clap with your forearm, NOT you whole arm!!!

Looks like an oriental fan!!!!

Fanning and swivel are different!

Fanning without swivel - Single Wrist Action(Fanning with 1 Finish Swivel)
Fanning with swivel - Standard Wrist Action (Fanning, 3 Swivels, Start up, Release, and Finish)

Cheerwine, Fried Chicken, and Wedges...Sounds Nice!!!

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A,

ShaZaammmm! Cool I can handle the clap . . . well at least the kind that makes sound.

Still why does Mr. K say "the Right Forearm must have a "Fanning" type of motion"? Since we are talking PUNCH do you "fan" when you punch something or somebody on a horizontal plane? Must you "fan" because the plane is inclined?

Your above response has to be a seminal moment in history. I would bet 10 pay checks that "external rotation away from the medial sagitall plane of the sternohumerousjoint" AND "Cheerwine, Fried Chicken, and Wedges" have never been uttered in the same breath before. And if they have been there was probably banjo music.

You gotta love this place! Thanks for the help! Grap Soda and a Moon Pie.

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Re: Fanning Motion vs. Linear Motion
Originally Posted by Matt
A fanning motion is when your right forearm swings back and forth, with the right elbow almost as it's pivot center. I wrote a great post explaining this on Chuck's site a while back, but it isn't accessible at the moment. Hopefully I can get to it soon and post it here.

But basically, when you "fan" your right hand gets "to the right of" your right elbow from your perspective. When you use the Push stroke and it's linear, the right hand stays "to the left of" your right elbow.
This is good stuff!
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Thanks 12piece.

Here's my other more in-depth post on it...and this one was written with the descriptions using a player watching me swing face-on, not from the own player's viewpoint like my post above.

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Imagine watching me swing face-on. In other words, if I wasn't holding a club, you'd be face-to-face with me.

At address, my right forearm is to the right of my right elbow from your perspective. As I take the club back, there becomes a point in the backstroke where my right forearm becomes even with my right elbow. Just after that, my right forearm moves to the left of my right elbow. Again, this is all from your perspective of facing me as I swing. This is the "fanning" motion.

Put another way: sit and clap your hands. Notice how your right hand/right forearm seems to inscribe an arc around your right elbow as you naturally clap your hands. Again, this representing Fanning.

Hope this helps. It's one of those things that you can show someone in a few seconds but it's just difficult to describe it in words!

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