#1 05-15-2005, 11:18 PM efnef Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Black Mountain, NC Posts: 415 Need a fog lifter. When does a snap release become flipping? efnef View Public Profile Send a private message to efnef Find all posts by efnef #2 05-16-2005, 02:44 AM Mathew Inactive User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 833 When you lose the no.1 imperative - flat left wrist..... Really they are very different issues...and should be taken in thei individuality Mathew View Public Profile Send a private message to Mathew Find all posts by Mathew #3 05-16-2005, 05:19 PM efnef Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Black Mountain, NC Posts: 415 Your latter point is well made, but your first answer is a good one. Thanks Mathew! efnef View Public Profile Send a private message to efnef Find all posts by efnef