I am getting close but still confused--for a hitter is the first move down moving the right shoulder down its plane which will shift the hips or is it hip action moving the right shoulder ??
I am getting close but still confused--for a hitter is the first move down moving the right shoulder down its plane which will shift the hips or is it hip action moving the right shoulder ??
Hip- take out the slack of the upper body. All strokes start bottom up with Hip motion the key to the pivot- for me
Is this wrong? I see Yoda with a very defined pivot before the right shoulder becomes a backboard to shove off of.
Mike,
Per 6-M-1, the downstroke sequence is always knees, hips, shoulders, right elbow, left wrist uncocking and / or left hand rotation.
But it is the INTENT of bringing the hands down and out on-plane that will ironically bring about this sequence.
Food for thought - you will hardly see a good tennis player getting out of sync in their strokes. Is it any wonder that they focus only on what their hands are doing?
Its hard for most people to accept this line of reasoning until they play a round of tennis, observe their pivot reacting to the hands and then apply this procedure to their golf stroke.
Amateurs who try to trigger the downstroke in the sequence afore mentioned always manage to get it to fire the other way around.
Which brings to mind Mr. Kelley's timeless words, the hands are not educated until they control the pivot - 9-1
Per 6-M-1, the downstroke sequence is always knees, hips, shoulders, right elbow, left wrist uncocking and / or left hand rotation.
But it is the INTENT of bringing the hands down and out on-plane that will ironically bring about this sequence.
Food for thought - you will hardly see a good tennis player getting out of sync in their strokes. Is it any wonder that they focus only on what their hands are doing?
Its hard for most people to accept this line of reasoning until they play a round of tennis, observe their pivot reacting to the hands and then apply this procedure to their golf stroke.
Amateurs who try to trigger the downstroke in the sequence afore mentioned always manage to get it to fire the other way around.
Which brings to mind Mr. Kelley's timeless words, the hands are not educated until they control the pivot - 9-1
I think many people need to have the pivot trained to some point before they learn hand controlled pivot. The body might not necesarily react to the hands. For example, a student could move the hands toward the ball by moving the arms independent of the body, thus resulting in very little pivot. Once the pivot is learned, then I think it is easier to learn a hand controlled pivot.
I taught tennis through my college days and for a couple of years after graduating. Some of the students with an athletic background could learn "hand controlled" strokes immediately, but many people had to learn the rotation involved with ground strokes first before having a "hand controlled" stroke. If they didn't they would just move the arms from the shoulder and have an arm-only stroke.
Since the arms can be moved from the shoulder sockets without the trunk rotating, it doesn't mean the body will necessarily respond to the hands when first learning the golf swing.
I agree a hand-controlled golf swing is the way to go, but I don't agree that the body will automatically respond correctly to the hand's movement. I think it has to be trained to do this.
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Since the arms can be moved from the shoulder sockets without the trunk rotating, it doesn't mean the body will necessarily respond to the hands when first learning the golf swing.
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The trunk is not rotating (or being felt doing nothing) does not necessarily mean it's not doing anything. It appears (to the observor) the body is motionless and doing nothing when pushing against a wall (static muscle contraction).
See for yourself by moving the (lagged) arms "without the trunk rotating" while standing on the ground vs. a rotary chair.
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
I am getting close but still confused--for a hitter is the first move down moving the right shoulder down its plane which will shift the hips or is it hip action moving the right shoulder ??
jermax....
Per 5-0, just concentrate on getting the hands down and out on the inclined plane - everything else will follow. This in essence is the Hand Controlled Pivot.
When everyone discusses down, out and forward. Down from where, out from what and forward of what. I have assumed (and we know what that breaks into) that down was from the top, out was from the center of the body, and forward was similar to through the ball.
Can you or someone else help?
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Kevin
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When everyone discusses down, out and forward. Down from where, out from what and forward of what. I have assumed (and we know what that breaks into) that down was from the top, out was from the center of the body, and forward was similar to through the ball.
The 'Down, Out and Forward' refers to the On Plane orbit of the Sweetspot from The Top of the Stroke through the Low Point.
The Ball rests on the Ground opposite the player. The Sweetspot is up in the air -- Back, Up and In -- On Plane. From The Top, the Sweetspot must move Down to get to the Ball; it must move Out to get to the Ball; and it must move Forward to get to the Ball. Hence...Down, Out and Forward.
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