TGM newbie question regarding hinge

[popwich1]

hi, I'm a newbie to TGM and are really confused after read through this great forum. could someone please clarify below to me:

regarding hinge, somewhere in this forum, someone quoted that els as a swinger, shapes the ball by playing around with its position. for a fade, he places the ball about 2 inches back in his stance (from normal), aligns his body left of the target and swings down his body line.

so: els - swinger - HH - ball move back - fade, correct?

I was watching Golf channel last night, I heard tiger is saying that he moves ball forward one ball length for a fade, ball back one ball length for a draw.

so: tiger - swinger?(not sure) - AH - ball move forward - fade, correct?

so, is it correct to say ball position movement is opposite depanding on the hinge action you use?

[6bmike]

Welcome aboard,

HH with Centrigual Force (Swinger) used to square the clubhead you would move the ball forward for a draw- since the clubface will be closing. Back for fade since the clubhead will be still open.

AH (Hitter or hands manipulated swinger)- forward to fade the ball since the clubface will be very open and back for a draw since the clubface will be not as open.

I have not be very good at drawing the ball with an Angled Hinge action.

[drewitgolf]

HH with Centrigual Force (Swinger) used to square the clubhead you would move the ball forward for a draw- since the clubface will be closing. Back for fade since the clubhead will be still open.

...and change your Plane Line accordingly.

IMO, Tiger: Swinger with longer clubs, Hitter with shorter clubs.

[birdie_man]

This doesn't seem to fit either:

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...iloneside.html

[popwich1]

should we say that: as a amateur, it's easier if we just use Hinge action to shape the ball, use HH if want draw, use AH if want fade. don't play with the ball position.

[drewitgolf]

This doesn't seem to fit either:

http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...iloneside.html

Manipulated Hand Swinger.