[HungryBear]

My added comments and where we still disagree (no big deal) would be that you don't think Homer meant #1 and I do.

I will explain below.

Further - I gather from your comments that you are not a fan of #1 in any practical manner - and I agree with that. Didn't really follow your "hold with #1 or hold with #2 comment" but I'm guessing that's not a big deal.

My communication error- Hold with means Agree with or stand with-

I guess if you had the interest I'd be interested in having you elaborate on your thoughts in regards to your comment above "although he did some "experiments" that would trap U into thinking that way." However, if you don't have an interest - no obligation to reply.

See below
Thanks,
Mike

2-F - Read it all with care.
The swing plane is 2 dimensional
Use the COG - ( HK "sweet spot" plane) and it lies FLAT on the 2-F plane.

The club can not be rotated (rolled) on the plane without an force [That is] NOT ON THAT PLANE. CF is only on that plane.
The force which does roll the club must control the roll PRECISELY. that is not only start but stop the roll in a precision alignment.
That force- as it is needed IS and comes from THE FLAT LEFT HAND.
CF Does nothing to the club but does allign the assembly via the wedge, rhythm, throwout and THE FLAT LEFT HAND.
#1 - NO, #2 - YES

HK experiment- HK hung a club head on a string and swung it around and found the face alignment he set out to demonstrate.
The problem is HK experiment was not a 2-F plane. HK demonstration was on a cone shaped plane. That made the plane 3 dimensional. So the club head orients itself because of the conical plane. (gravity becomes a force)

Here is an experiment:
Take a club- wedge is ok- driver is ok - (dont use a putter they are screwd up)
Put a tee in the grip and suspend the club by the tee to a Hook with a thin string ( heavy thread will do)
Notice the club will hang and maybe rotate back and forth as it will.
Now swing the club as a pendulum. Notice the clubface still just wanders around.
Because it is a pendulum a pattern may be detected but that is due to an on plane "effect" because it is a pendulum.
Spin the club to wind up the string. The hanging club will unwind the string. move it as a pendulum and it will still continue to unwind.
There is neither much force and no control just because the club is moveing on a plane.
[the club would act the same on any 2 dimensional plane. - ie. if it made a complete loop or if the plane was angled but

I am adding an element to the experiment:
If you start the club swinging in a conical orbit the clubface will perform as HK's did.

Therefore - clubface alignment is "flat left hand" in whatever form the golfer has learned to apply it.

#2 - Manipulation- is imperative.

HB