[MizunoJoe]

Ok. Let me ask this please...the TGM definitions of snap vs random sweep release refer to reality, correct? Meaning what's actually happening? So intent is I material as far as definitions are concerned?

So MJ and Daryl are talking about the HOW to achieve these realities--snap vs random sweep?

So MJ you're saying Snap Release with max potential CH speed is only possible by keeping PP3 with R shoulder speed and R elbow bent? How about aligning the shaft with the shoulder rotation (plane where shoulder rotates) from Startdown to Downstroke, so you have only longitudinal acceleration on the shaft, hence no Release/PA2 uncocking/keep angles without tensioning the wrists? At Release just fire PP3/PA1? Wouldn't that be Snap Release without tensioning the wrists? MJ?

IMO I'd agree more with Daryl. What I said above jives with the last 2 posts of Dsryl...I think. Daryl?

Yes, TGM deals with reality, when HK is talking feelings or intentions, he says so, like when he says the swing should feel heavy, not fast or dainty.

I'm talking about using the Pivot ONLY to uncock the left wrist from a deep release position. The hand path to that deep release position depends on whether you plane shift on the downswing or not. In either case it's the hips which bring the hands down to that deep release position, but from there, there is no firing of PA#1, which would be a max trigger delay Hitting procedure if the Pivot is stalled or a Switting pattern without Pivot stall, which, in either case, for most golfers would be inferior to the cf Swing.