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Old 05-07-2005, 08:02 PM
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Why do i have such a problem "swinging left?"
I have a flat left wrist
I have lag pressure

But yet i trace a slightly bent plane line...

My divots start straight...keep going straight...and head slightly left.


This leads to what i believe are clubface pulls (if there is such a thing)

Whenever i REALLY try to swing more to the right i lose my balance.

When i was with Manzella we got me to swing more to the right and actually get some inside/out divots that pointed RIGHT! But it was really tough for me and very akward to get there.

Anybody?
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Old 05-07-2005, 09:03 PM
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i don't steer it...it is just something I DO....it is very similar to David Toms "left move"

My arms just go that way because my shoulders are turning...if i could get the right shoulder to stay a little "back" it'd go more in/out
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Old 05-07-2005, 09:13 PM
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Well I can relate to your divot. I have two problems, one being my left knee bend (read that as also letting it move to the outside in the downstroke/impact/follow through) and the other is my hips.

Yoda had me do the following drill

From your normal address
Take your backstroke
Pause and or hold the at the top while shifting the hips
Then do the downstroke.

This helped me greatly get the club going inside to out.

But as I said I have second problem which compounds my swing fault. I thought it was cause I was overshifting but that proved not to be the case.

Oh, I also slowed my tempo down a tad and this had the same effect as the drill above. Obviously my tempo was destroying my rhythm.

Also practicing the basic and acquired motion, one handed can help get the motion back.
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Old 05-07-2005, 10:01 PM
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Thanks martee....i had to do a drill like that too, to learn secondary or axis tilt. That is what brian and i worked on last july. So i know how that goes.

I'm not so worried about it to be honest, but it does impeed me from a hitting a draw with the bigger clubs when i want to and also hurts my driver as well because if i'm even A LITTLE off with my horizontal hinge, combined with the left move is a slice. So to guard against that, i have sort of a switting driver swing. Ah well, when i do it right my driver goes dead straight.
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Old 05-08-2005, 09:57 AM
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RX For A Bent Plane Line: The Downstroke Waggle
Originally Posted by jim_0068
I have a flat left wrist. I have lag pressure.

But yet i trace a slightly bent plane line...

My divots start straight...keep going straight...and head slightly left.

Anybody?
Hogan was right: The Top is the Crossroads of the Swing.

And so was Homer Kelley: "It separates Hitter from Swinger from Hacker."

What to do?

The Downstroke Waggle with Extensor Action.

This coordinated move of Hip and Hand trains the player to maintain the mission-critical relationship of the Sweet Spot to the Plane Line during the Start Down. In addition, it ingrains the proper Downstroke Release Sequence.

Use V.J. Trolio's 'Training Grid' concept:

Perform 60 'moves' per day for thirty days. That means 1800 'moves' for the month. That should do it!
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Old 05-08-2005, 04:00 PM
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If anyone thinks that's all there is to it (repetitive drill training), they are naive.

(no offense Lynn)
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Old 05-08-2005, 04:27 PM
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Calling Paul Harvey
Originally Posted by brianmanzella
If anyone thinks that's all to it (repetitive drill training), they are naive.

(no offense Lynn)
None taken, Brian. But it is at least a start.

And now, please share with us...

The rest of the story.
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Old 05-08-2005, 05:11 PM
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I believe Dr. Carey Mumford teaches that there is no magic number of repetitions per day that will build in a habit. Each person is different and it takes longer with some and shorter with few. He uses his "32-ball drill" to develop habits.

4 balls on manual
4 balls on automatic (with clearkey)

(x 4) = 32 balls

That constitutes a single "unit" of practice. If you're trying to rebuild a habit, it may only take a few 32-ball drills. If it's a new habit, who knows how long it'll take. You just keep at it until your Computer recognizes the new move as what you want it to do and installs it.
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Old 05-08-2005, 11:26 PM
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Root cause.

That's part of the art.


Figuring out the Root cause.


For instance, a golfer come over the top and has a TOO open clubface.

All the reps in the world won't fix the over-the-top move.


But....fixing the ROOT CAUSE (in the example:the clubface)....WILL!!!
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Old 05-09-2005, 09:23 AM
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Jim - back to the originial question - how much forward lean do you have at address (from your hips)?

The more forward lean, the harder it is to swing 'out to the right' and keep your balance (and the easier it is to swing left). Make sure you feel very well balanced at address and not falling out to your toes too much.
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