Magic Of The Right Forearm / Elbow Action

[Yoda]

Yoda,
What about about the alignment of the right shoulder and right forearm at address. Better said the tilt of the right shoulder in alignment with the right forearm...with the right hand naturally lower than the left hand at address...the right shoulder should tilt in alignment with right forearm...I guess my question is? Does Homer mention something like this in the book, right know I don't have the time to research it!!!!

The AI that I'm working with said I need to tilt my right shoulder a bit??? Then I thought to myself....self??? ...tilt my shoulders to the right? By what degree?....then I looked down at the my right forearm and it seemed to make logical sense that the right shoulder should tilt naturally in alignment with the right forearm as the right hand is put on the club at address....hey...an alignment instead of just a position!!!!!!! Now we're getting somewhere!!!
Range Rat

As I wrote on a post earlier today -- or was it yesterday? -- the Right Forearm On Plane at Impact is due to the Right Shoulder being On Plane. This, in turn, is due to the Hip Shift and Axis Tilt at Start Down. So, the On Plane Right Forearm and the Impact degree of Right Elbow Bend is dependent upon the Impact Location of the Hip and Spine. Any attempt to recreate the On Plane Right Forearm and Fix degree of Right Elbow Bend without the accompanying Hip Shift (and Axis Tilt) tends to create contortive (and even 'un-golflike') alignments at Adjusted Address.

So, if you're going to 'tilt' your Axis at Address, do it via the very slight -- but nevertheless required -- Hip Shift, not through an artificial lowering of the Right Shoulder. And when you Shift (and probably slightly Turn) your Hips, leave your Head directly between your Feet. In other words, do not 'lean' to the right or otherwise attempt to get 'behind the Ball.'

Head Location is independent of Ball Location. With your Head Centered between your Feet, you're already 'behind' the Ball. Or 'in front' of the Ball. Or 'even with' the Ball. Now stay there and do the really important thing: Keep the Clubhead behind The Hands.

It's God's Plan.

[Yoda]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Originally Posted by ms1170 Yoda, Thank you for your wonderful posts. You make TGM a lot easier to understand, but I am confused about the Right hand position in this exercise. My problem is I don't see how it is possible to hold the dowel a foot from the end with a vertical (4-C-1) wrist on the table top.. Also wouldn't your hand have to be palm down or "rolled (4-C-3) to have the dowel parallel to the table top? Thanks again for your help. Mike Mike, Like this!

Yoda,
In holding the right arm and shaft on the same plane - I have a question. In the next post on this thread, you state the following:

Originally Posted by Yoda

Now stand up, keeping your On Plane Right Arm Flying Wedge Intact and on a Horizontal Plane. Shift your Body into its Impact Fix Alignments. Keeping your Right Forearm Flying Wedge intact -- that means Right Wrist Bent and dowel parallel to the floor (or ground) -- move the Club into an On Horizontal Plane Backstroke by Bending your Right Elbow. From there, move the Club into an On Horizontal Plane Downstroke STRAIGHTENING YOUR RIGHT ARM WHILE KEEPING YOUR WRIST BENT. Do this over and over and over and over and over. Look, Look LOOK to make sure there is ABSOLUTELY NO FLATTENING OF THE RIGHT WRIST!!! IT MUST REMAIN IN ITS BENT AND LEVEL CONDITION. Then drop your Right Forearm Flying Wedge onto the Inclined Plane and REPEAT THE EXACT SAME MOTION. Do this over and over and over and over and over. Bend the Right Elbow. Straighten the Right Elbow. Keeping the Right Wrist Bent. Alternate back and forth between Horizontal Plane practice and Inclined Plane Practice. Listen to the dowel Swish as you Straighten the Right Elbow. Do this every day until further notice.

My question is this. If, at impact fix, this alignment is established - for practice purposes - how far back into the stroke would you maintain it? (meaning, not necessarily the bent right wrist condition, but the onplane forearm and shaft as depicted on the table - laying on the same plane) I am guessing into the backstroke but not sure about the top.

1. For Swinging
2. For hitting

Anyone else, I would like to hear your input as well.

Thanks,
Patrick

Good question, Patrick, and Homer specifically addressed it in his additions slated for the as-yet-unpublished 7th Edition:

4-D-1, paragraph 1, last line -- after "(2-K)" insert:

"But, remember that there is normally a point where Backstroke Shoulder and Wrist Motions make it difficult or even impossible to keep the Flat Left Wrist vertical to its Plane or the Right Forearm on its Plane without producing a non-golfing and Off Plane Clubshaft position or motion which is intolerable per 2-F and 3-F-6 for thinking players (1-G)."

And there -- from The Man himself -- you have it!