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Old 04-14-2006, 09:12 AM
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#4 Pressure Point
In Swinging when does the player first feel the #4 pressure point? A few years ago when Len Matice almost won the Masters, I noticed that before every shot he would pull his shirt sleave up on his left arm and move his left upper arm against his left side as if to establish his #4 ppt.
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Old 04-14-2006, 09:55 AM
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When Do You Load #4?
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In Swinging when does the player first feel the #4 pressure point? A few years ago when Len Matice almost won the Masters, I noticed that before every shot he would pull his shirt sleave up on his left arm and move his left upper arm against his left side as if to establish his #4 ppt.
Swingers (and Four Barrel Hitters) Load the #4 Pressure Point (with the Pivot) in the Start Down.
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Old 05-06-2006, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by johngolf33
In Swinging when does the player first feel the #4 pressure point? A few years ago when Len Matice almost won the Masters, I noticed that before every shot he would pull his shirt sleave up on his left arm and move his left upper arm against his left side as if to establish his #4 ppt.
I first really felt pp4 when I started to mess around with extensor action. You have to have a really solid structure of your left arm and clubshaft for your pivot to be able to throw the entire primary lever assembly (left arm and clubshaft) into impact.. An analogy for extensor action would be pulling the needle(club) so that the thread (left arm) becomes tight - At the top of the backstroke you want your pivot to drive against a really tight rope - you can't do it with a loose one. The left arm or rope is moved by the pivot it does not move by itself....
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Old 05-06-2006, 05:58 AM
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Taut, maybe, not tight. No tension in the swing. Perhaps this is semantics, but we don't want to convey the need for tension.
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Old 05-06-2006, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mathew
I first really felt pp4 when I started to mess around with extensor action. You have to have a really solid structure of your left arm and clubshaft for your pivot to be able to throw the entire primary lever assembly (left arm and clubshaft) into impact.. An analogy for extensor action would be pulling the needle(club) so that the thread (left arm) becomes tight - At the top of the backstroke you want your pivot to drive against a really tight rope - you can't do it with a loose one. The left arm or rope is moved by the pivot it does not move by itself....
Mathew,

This is a hell of a post. I have never considered Extensor Action in this light. "You want your pivot to drive against a tight rope." That is super. I always wondered if Extensor Action was less critical to the Swingers Motion. But this post should be in the archives for Swingers.

How strong are you "tugging?" Do you have an analogy as to the level of "effort" in your extensor action?

Great post man!

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Old 05-06-2006, 10:28 PM
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Mathew,

This is a hell of a post. I have never considered Extensor Action in this light. "You want your pivot to drive against a tight rope." That is super. I always wondered if Extensor Action was less critical to the Swingers Motion. But this post should be in the archives for Swingers.

How strong are you "tugging?" Do you have an analogy as to the level of "effort" in your extensor action?

Great post man!

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I personally can't apply too much extensor action if done correctly. The lever assembly is always driven by applying pressure against it and in the swingers procedure this is the pivot applying pressure where the left arm is against the chest. If the left arm is not being pulled aggressively with extensor action, the pivot has a floppy and weak left arm structure to drive into impact.
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I personally can't apply too much extensor action if done correctly. The lever assembly is always driven by applying pressure against it and in the swingers procedure this is the pivot applying pressure where the left arm is against the chest. If the left arm is not being pulled aggressively with extensor action, the pivot has a floppy and weak left arm structure to drive into impact.
Me likey. So in essence you have "pre-loaded" pp4 via Extensor Action prior to the load imparted by the Pivot?
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Me likey. So in essence you have "pre-loaded" pp4 via Extensor Action prior to the load imparted by the Pivot?
Hmmm... not sure exactly what your meaning

PP4 is loaded on the backstroke and your left arm contacts the chest at the top. Once your at the top of the backstroke you feel this pressure and you concentrate on increasing the pressure (don't think about directions - just the pressure) as much as possible all the while maintaining a stationary head - releasing no.4.

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Mathew,

When do you feel the pressure is released? When do you feel the arm is completely off the chest?

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Old 05-06-2006, 11:27 PM
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Mathew,

When do you feel the pressure is released? When do you feel the arm is completely off the chest?

Matt
Its hard to say an exact point, I know for sure its definately off the chest at the followthrough - both arms straight.
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