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Old 02-04-2008, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
Mr. K states, "RELEASE MOTIONS This term refers to the Release of Accumulators #2 and #3. . . . "Uncocking" (4-B-3) and "Roll" (4-C-3) are two separate motions: 1) Wrist Motion and 2) Hand Motion - coordinate but very independent (4-0). . . . Normally, Uncocking is a function of the Wrist actuating the Clubhead (4-B). See 5-0 and 7-11. It has nothing to do with Clubface alignment at Impact - that is the function of the Hands, executing the Clubface Motion (4-C) - Accumulator #3 (2-G)."

Later he states: "The Hitter concentrates on Hand Motion, while the Swinger concentrates on Wrist Motion."

And per 4-C-1 "VERTICAL The wrist is VERTICAL when the back of the Hand would lay flat against a swinging door mounted per the selected Hinge Action, (2-G) with the Shoulder at the Hinge Line."

Why should the Hitter concentrate on Hand Motion? And how should the Hitter do this?
My thoughts.

First, sometimes when we ask these insane questions - I dont know if Homers thought process is in relationship to a 'true' swinger or a 'manipulated hands' swinger.

Anyways...

Why should a hitter concentrate on hand motion? I believe I asked this question to someone and for the life of me cannot remember the response. I am thinking the hitter would concentrate (or as Mike stated, be aware of) hand motion versus wrist motion because the hitters thrust would not result in sequenced release - so conversly, if he 'concentrated' on wrist motion, then he would be concentrating on the left wrist uncocking - a direct conflict with his prescribed release motion as a hitter.

For a swinger, kinda makes sense. Throwout from uncocking left wrist then roll - if you dont uncock, no roll (hypothetically).

Heres the issue with the true swinging comment I made.

A true swinger has no concern for clubface alignment - the face will align same place ever time regardless of grip type. Ball placement, yes, but not clubface. However, the hitter does have a concern because the face will not automatically align - so he has to worry about the face/grip type to a certain extent.

So is Homer talking True or manipulated?

Try to decipher that post. Two perspectives on interpretation.

And I am sure I made no sense. And if I did, then you got major issues.

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Old 03-29-2008, 02:03 AM
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Concentration
You concentrate on what you intend to do.

For example, If you try to "Snap-Release", you concentrate on the "Release" action and feel (or "be aware of") the "Release" motion.

I don't concentrate on "Release" action, if I try to "Sustain the Lag" (by pushing or pulling), but can still feel (or "be aware of") the "Release" motion, if I want to.
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Old 04-22-2008, 11:17 PM
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I have not seen any rational answer to the question as to why a hitter has to concentrate on hand motions. What hand motion? Also, doesn't the hitter also have a 90 degree angle between the left arm and clubshaft, and surely the left wrist needs to uncock during the downswing. Does the left wrist uncock differently in a hitter due to the right hand applying force in a radial direction (presumably against PP1) rather than pulling on the club along its longitudinal axis? In a swinger, there is apparently a sequenced power accumulator release (2 before 3) while those two power accumulators are apparently released simultaneously in a hitter? What does that difference really mean in terms of the hand delivery path/arc and the release motion?

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Old 04-23-2008, 02:51 PM
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Remember that the position and alignments of the hands, pressure points, forearms and sweetspot are different in the loading action for hitters and swingers....7-3

Until you see, understand and can experience that bit...then you should not be thinking about release motions...

Once you understand the loading actions...then the release motions become easier to understand.

That is my opinion and experience of learning this stuff...

look under 7-3...there were some good threads on that with some photos that helped me.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:51 AM
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I cannot understand the second paragraph in 7:3. Could you please refer me to threads and photos that explicate that issue. I don't want to open a new thread on this topic if the issue has been thoroughly explained in a previous thread.
I asked Bagger Lance that same question in another thread (on the right forearm), but he didn't want to answer the question in that particular thread. So, I still cannot understand that important "difference".

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Old 04-24-2008, 12:27 PM
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Golfbulldog

I cannot understand the second paragraph in 7:3. Could you please refer me to threads and photos that explicate that issue. I don't want to open a new thread on this topic if the issue has been thoroughly explained in a previous thread.
I asked Bagger Lance that same question in another thread (on the right forearm), but he didn't want to answer the question in that particular thread. So, I still cannot understand that important "difference".

Jeff.
Jeff,

Watch this video and see if it clears up a few things for you.

http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...hereAreYou.wmv
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Old 04-24-2008, 01:20 PM
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Bagger - thanks for referring me to that video. I enjoyed it. However, it still doesn't help me understand the difference between loading in swinging versus hitting. I can understand why Yoda states that the swinger loads against the top of the shaft with his PP3 when he eventually gets to the end position. However, what happens if a swinger decides to limit his backstroke to the top position (hands opposite the right shoulder like a hitter) because he cannot get a full shoulder turn. Then his PP3 position could be said to be behind the shaft - like a hitter. In that situation, I cannot understand the difference between a swinger (who has limited his backstroke to the top position and doesn't get to the end position) and hitter. It would seem to me that the PP3 point (established when gripping the club at address) aways contacts the shaft at the same point in a swinger, but it is called "under" the shaft or "behind" the shaft depending on where the clubshaft is located in space. However, a different semantic label doesn't necessarily imply different biomechanical loading actions in a swinger versus hitter - or does it?

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