I can't feel the #2 Pressure Point until my Left Hand Cocks. It occurs near the end of the Backstroke. It seems to stem from the Clubshaft moving against the #3 PP which leverages the end of the grip against the last three fingers of my left hand. So, I guess I feel pressure from the bottom of the shaft and not the Aft side of the shaft. It seems difficult (not impossible) to feel this loading during a Pitch or Punch length shot.
Do others have this same feel?
Do Hitters feel pressure from the Aft Side of the Shaft because they Load the #3 PP against the Primary Lever?
Haven't seen this thread before you wake it up, Daryl. The intro by 12 pc is pure golfing poetry.
PP#2 is the life blood in my game, from t to green. If it's not alive and kicking at impact it is throwaway city, compression leak, flipping, missed putts, duffed chips and two shots in the bunker. PP#2 is to me the chief guardian of Homer's first big discovery: The flat left wrist. Also, it is the supervising monitor of rhythm and the leverage from accumulator #4. My left wrist always know how I'm doing.
I can lose pp#1 and pp#3 lag pressure big time and get away with it for quite a few holes. But if I loose pp#2 pressure I've got no game.
Even though pp#2 is protected by a glove, that's where I get the biggest golf blisters. The two middle fingers have one each, then there are two more in the palm of the hand, following the extension of the ring finger and yet another at the extension of the long finger. If I hit hundreds of balls on the, it's the left forearm - the muscles that powers pp#2 that gets the hardest workout. And the better I strike the ball the harder workout they get.
Hi, I'm ICT, a grateful owner of a left forearm and # 2 pp!
Originally Posted by BerntR
Haven't seen this thread before you wake it up, Daryl. The intro by 12 pc is pure golfing poetry.
PP#2 is the life blood in my game, from t to green. If it's not alive and kicking at impact it is throwaway city, compression leak, flipping, missed putts, duffed chips and two shots in the bunker. PP#2 is to me the chief guardian of Homer's first big discovery: The flat left wrist. Also, it is the supervising monitor of rhythm and the leverage from accumulator #4. My left wrist always know how I'm doing.
I can lose pp#1 and pp#3 lag pressure big time and get away with it for quite a few holes. But if I loose pp#2 pressure I've got no game.
Even though pp#2 is protected by a glove, that's where I get the biggest golf blisters. The two middle fingers have one each, then there are two more in the palm of the hand, following the extension of the ring finger and yet another at the extension of the long finger. If I hit hundreds of balls on the, it's the left forearm - the muscles that powers pp#2 that gets the hardest workout. And the better I strike the ball the harder workout they get.
Since experimenting with the Moe Norman tapes, I have become acutely aware of my left forearm and # 2 pp! When my head is stable (physically, not emotionally, though that helps, too), I count on # 2 pp to hold my flying wedges in place and make the ball go "wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" all the way to the hole!
Patrick
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Last edited by innercityteacher : 09-21-2010 at 12:08 PM.
I can't feel the #2 Pressure Point until my Left Hand Cocks. It occurs near the end of the Backstroke. It seems to stem from the Clubshaft moving against the #3 PP which leverages the end of the grip against the last three fingers of my left hand. So, I guess I feel pressure from the bottom of the shaft and not the Aft side of the shaft. It seems difficult (not impossible) to feel this loading during a Pitch or Punch length shot.
Do others have this same feel?
Do Hitters feel pressure from the Aft Side of the Shaft because they Load the #3 PP against the Primary Lever?
Yes, me too.
I'd say that when Im Drag Loading , the direction of loading is against the knuckle and the Dragging (by the left side pulls/drags the Left Hand which is turned to the inclined plane, down plane) is tugging at the #2 pp. The more loading the stronger the sense of pressure at the #3pp at the knuckle. The stronger the Dragging the more the sense of pressure at #2pp.
In regard to Hitters and the Aft.......Id say yes, assuming he is Drive Loading and not Drag then Drive Hitting.
The pressure point is said to be "rotated" for Drag Loaders but not because of anything other the direction in which the the loading occurs. You load along the Top of the shaft, the knuckle. It goes especially well with active left wrist, swinging. Shorter lengths of strokes have less loading , less inertia and less pressure at the associated pressure points but the unique direction of loading will still be there assuming a long enough stroke.................I suppose a putt would load the aft of the shaft Hitting or Swinging. Its a purely Radial stroke no Longitudinal acceleration as the left hand never turns to plane and there's no left wrist cock.
So, I guess I feel pressure from the bottom of the shaft and not the Aft side of the shaft.
It seems difficult (not impossible) to feel this loading during a Pitch or Punch length shot.
Do others have this same feel?
Do Hitters feel pressure from the Aft Side of the Shaft because they Load the #3 PP against the Primary Lever?
I basically feel it on the bottom of the shaft. The dynamic weight of the club. Perhaps a little aft add-on on some shots. But it's the "under" par that's vital to me.
A little cross seeding between geometry and physics indicates that a flat left wrist goes hand in hand with pp#2 pressure at the bottom of the shaft I would say. If you're "afting" your pp"3 I'd say you're challenging the flat left wrist.
Things may be different at impact though. When the club crashes into the ball, the butt end just wants to go faster. So at impact it probably pp#2 pressure on the front of the shaft. In addition to the underside. Althoug it may be difficult to feel the front part.
PP#2 is very important to me particulary for my long irons and woods when I am in the swinging mode.
In fact the party can't get started until PP1 PP2and PP4 are present at address for me.
I set(cock) my wrist early and feel the pressure at the last three fingers.
What a difference a few months make.
I used to feel more comfortable with a bit of left index finger on the shaft but I don't any more.
When I am in the hitting mode PP1 and PP2 seems to disappear and replaced with PP3. PP4, the master accumulator is always present is swinging and hitting.
To make easier I just switch from a 10-2-D (my swinger's grip) to weak double action when I'm hitting by simply putting my hands at impact fix position.
Hybrid Mode
