maybe taking this a bit off topic but does the rotated shoulder turn = easier to keep head centered?
That seems true for me but I don't focus so much on the Shoulder Turn. I try to move the Hands onto the TSP ASAP. That pretty much takes care of the Shoulder Turn.
I've noticed in your recent video that you've moved in that direction too. But how do you get the right amount of Flat in a Flat Backstroke Shoulder Turn?
I think the Stationary Head and EA allows the Hand Path and thus determines the Shoulder Path, not the other way around. It works well for me because when the Shoulders get Dragged by the Hands while your Head remains Stationary, your Shoulders have only one path to follow.
That seems true for me but I don't focus so much on the Shoulder Turn. I try to move the Hands onto the TSP ASAP. That pretty much takes care of the Shoulder Turn.
I've noticed in your recent video that you've moved in that direction too. But how do you get the right amount of Flat in a Flat Backstroke Shoulder Turn?
I think the Stationary Head and EA allows the Hand Path and thus determines the Shoulder Path, not the other way around. It works well for me because when the Shoulders get Dragged by the Hands while your Head remains Stationary, your Shoulders have only one path to follow.
Yea, just trying to get the hands on plane quicker in the backswing, they were getting to much out, now trying to get the hands working more in and up, naturally it seems like the shoulder turn gets closer to rotated, its not a conscious effort to turn the left shoulder down.
I hit my irons off the chart good last round working it both ways. The driver was a bit of a struggle, not sure why. Its usually the other way around with a flatter shoulder turn.
maybe taking this a bit off topic but does the rotated shoulder turn = easier to keep head centered?
No, I don't know that I would say that, but what does help a lot is having proper hip motion. When the right hip moves properly, it is much simpler to keep a stable center.
That is really the key benefit of this image IMO, that if you allow the hip to respond to it, you'll feel proper hip action, perhaps for the first time.
Kev - I agree, I'd be quite surprised to see any of the 'stacked' players winning a British Open for that reason.
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Just to make sure I've got this right, I feel like my hips are already leaning, or almost moving left by the time I get to top - much like VJ's "The Final Missing Piece" dvd. Does that sound about right, Ed?
Just to make sure I've got this right, I feel like my hips are already leaning, or almost moving left by the time I get to top - much like VJ's "The Final Missing Piece" dvd. Does that sound about right, Ed?
Andy . . . . . after having seen your move . . . . be a little careful about taking too much of the VJ pill . . . if you get your hips too far forward you'll run of out range of motion and stall out . . . . you're already stalling . . . . so you just be sure you don't take the whole bottle of pills where maybe half a pill will do. You need your hips pushing forward and turning thru the ball not really on the b.s. Getting your hips that forward early is a hook/push move . . . you already got hook move . . .
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